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  • kblock108
    Member
    • May 2015
    • 122

    Guns tax write offs

    Anyone here know how many gun you can or are allowed to write off for tax purposes? I have purchased several this year, all for different purposes (I.e. Not 4 duty guns).
  • #2
    borderguy
    Member
    • Feb 2004
    • 386

    Why would an LEO be allowed to write off a non-duty gun?

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    • #3
      kblock108
      Member
      • May 2015
      • 122

      Always one...I guess. I posted a question, solicitating an answer to my question.not for another question. For clarification, a duty gun to me is a side arm. But I carry multiple, duty, back up, rifle, etc...all for work, not sport or leisure.

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      • #4
        34marine
        Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 117

        Originally posted by kblock108
        Always one...I guess. I posted a question, solicitating an answer to my question.not for another question. For clarification, a duty gun to me is a side arm. But I carry multiple, duty, back up, rifle, etc...all for work, not sport or leisure.
        The answer is 2

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        • #5
          Thesource161
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 574

          I was told one a year.

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          • #6
            71MUSTY
            Calguns Addict
            • Mar 2014
            • 7029

            The actual rule is Ordinary and Necessary.

            To be deductible, a business expense must be both ordinary and necessary. An ordinary expense is one that is common and accepted in your industry. A necessary expense is one that is helpful and appropriate for your trade or business. An expense does not have to be indispensable to be considered necessary.

            So in an audit you would need to prove that the number of guns you are writing off is common and accepted in your industry and helpful and appropriate.

            So no fixed number but you need to be able to defend the number.

            Also you would need to convince the auditor they were not for personal use.


            So it really comes down to how convincing you are and the auditors bias or experience.

            Kind of like a traffic stop.

            In have had good luck defending LEO's equipment expenses.

            Do not recommend you deduct haircuts, gym memberships or on duty meals. Auditors love to slash those.

            Deduct mileage to range and court.
            Last edited by 71MUSTY; 10-18-2016, 6:44 PM.
            Only slaves don't need guns

            Originally posted by epilepticninja
            Americans vs. Democrats
            We stand for the Anthem, we kneel for the cross


            We already have the only reasonable Gun Control we need, It's called the Second Amendment and it's the government it controls.


            What doesn't kill me, better run

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            • #7
              Ralston
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 543

              So that Mosin 91/30 write off wasn't a good idea? Asking for a friend.

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              • #8
                SVT-40
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2008
                • 12894

                I always did one each year. Plus all the ammo I bought...Never an issue.
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                • #9
                  borderguy
                  Member
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 386

                  Originally posted by kblock108
                  Always one...I guess. I posted a question, solicitating an answer to my question.not for another question. For clarification, a duty gun to me is a side arm. But I carry multiple, duty, back up, rifle, etc...all for work, not sport or leisure.
                  Thank you, the ambiguousness of you question didn't clearly state the specifics.

                  To an auditor, duty/work is interchangeable.

                  You question appears to have been answered.
                  I also wrote off union dues, batteries, and gym fees etc. as they were related to work.

                  If you have a temporary assignment, you can also write off travel expenses.

                  I was lucky and worked with an officer who was an ex IRS agent.

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                  • #10
                    71MUSTY
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 7029

                    Originally posted by borderguy
                    Thank you, the ambiguousness of you question didn't clearly state the specifics.

                    To an auditor, duty/work is interchangeable.

                    You question appears to have been answered.
                    I also wrote off union dues, batteries, and gym fees etc. as they were related to work.

                    If you have a temporary assignment, you can also write off travel expenses.

                    I was lucky and worked with an officer who was an ex IRS agent.
                    ^^^^^Correct, except for the gym fees. IRS will not allow gym fees or haircuts.^^^^^

                    Safety equip too. Dry cleaning, rain gear...
                    Only slaves don't need guns

                    Originally posted by epilepticninja
                    Americans vs. Democrats
                    We stand for the Anthem, we kneel for the cross


                    We already have the only reasonable Gun Control we need, It's called the Second Amendment and it's the government it controls.


                    What doesn't kill me, better run

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                    • #11
                      XDJYo
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 6612

                      I'm assuming this is on Form 2106. Talk with a CPA and ask about specifics. I see all manner of unreimbursed employee expenses. However, it's a little sad that I HARDLY ever see police have much in the way of ammo deductions or for firearms.
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                      • #12
                        oddjob
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 2397

                        My CPA told me I had to depreciate the gun over a five year period and if I sold it I had to claim capital gains.

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                        • #13
                          71MUSTY
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 7029

                          Originally posted by oddjob
                          My CPA told me I had to depreciate the gun over a five year period and if I sold it I had to claim capital gains.
                          Old rules. No longer apply. Time to see your CPA (or better yet EA) and learn the new rules.
                          Only slaves don't need guns

                          Originally posted by epilepticninja
                          Americans vs. Democrats
                          We stand for the Anthem, we kneel for the cross


                          We already have the only reasonable Gun Control we need, It's called the Second Amendment and it's the government it controls.


                          What doesn't kill me, better run

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                          • #14
                            SMarquez
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 2216

                            Not a LEO but I use an EA that has a mostly Public Safety client base. You should be able to find a retired LEO that has become an EA and specializes in LEO taxes. FWIW I write off the sales tax on firearm purchases. As a FF I wrote off all kinds of stuff like gear bags, knives, belts etc. This was all prompted by my EA when I did my taxes. She told me that she was confident that there are "usual and customary" accessories that we add from out own pocket to do our jobs but to not go crazy with it.

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                            • #15
                              71MUSTY
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Mar 2014
                              • 7029

                              Originally posted by SMarquez
                              Not a LEO but I use an EA that has a mostly Public Safety client base. You should be able to find a retired LEO that has become an EA and specializes in LEO taxes. FWIW I write off the sales tax on firearm purchases. As a FF I wrote off all kinds of stuff like gear bags, knives, belts etc. This was all prompted by my EA when I did my taxes. She told me that she was confident that there are "usual and customary" accessories that we add from out own pocket to do our jobs but to not go crazy with it.
                              Just about any EA (Ideally you want an EA who got his license thru passing the exam, not one that got it by default because he worked for the IRS for x number of years) will know how to correctly handle a LEO's deductions. Remember EA's are the true tax experts.
                              CPA's are accounting experts.
                              I am not saying there are no CPA's who are tax experts (some are as good as it gets), but nothing in their Education, Licensing or Continued Education requirements pertain to proficiency in income taxes.
                              Only slaves don't need guns

                              Originally posted by epilepticninja
                              Americans vs. Democrats
                              We stand for the Anthem, we kneel for the cross


                              We already have the only reasonable Gun Control we need, It's called the Second Amendment and it's the government it controls.


                              What doesn't kill me, better run

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