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  • CavTrooper
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2007
    • 5944

    Basic training attrition rates.

    Alot of folks ask about failing out of basic training/boot camp, but I never had any real numbers to go on. I looked tonight and found some numbers I thought were interesting.



    US Army has the highest attrition rate in basic training, followed by the Navy, the Marine Corps and then the Air force.

    So I guess if youre worried about basic training being too tough, you might wanna try the Marine Corps or the Air Force, seems that their basic training is the easiest to pass!
  • #2
    strangerdude
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 1762

    I've never been in the military but I have seen many overweight Army guy's and never an out of shape Marine. If Army basic is so tough why would you have to do Marine basic If you wanted to join? Once Marines decide to join other branches they don't have to go to bootcamp because they have the toughest basic out of all branches?

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    • #3
      cgseanp1
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 4651

      ahh man, no Coast Guard stats?

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      • #4
        anthonyca
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2008
        • 6316

        Army basic training was a joke. It was tailored for teenage girls.
        https://www.facebook.com/pages/Union...70812799700206

        Originally posted by Wherryj
        I am a physician. I am held to being "the expert" in medicine. I can't fall back on feigned ignorance and the statement that the patient should have known better than I. When an officer "can't be expected to know the entire penal code", but a citizen is held to "ignorance is no excuse", this is equivalent to ME being able to sue my patient for my own malpractice-after all, the patient should have known better, right?

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        • #5
          Desert_Rat
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 2289

          Originally posted by longbeach
          I've never been in the military but I have seen many overweight Army guy's and never an out of shape Marine. If Army basic is so tough why would you have to do Marine basic If you wanted to join? Once Marines decide to join other branches they don't have to go to bootcamp because they have the toughest basic out of all branches?
          This is curious to me as well,When I was in Recruuit training at MCRD there was a prior Army and a prior Navy guy there.the Army guy was mostly squared away,but I'm sorry to say that the Navy guy,not so much.After my time in the Corps.I joined the Guard and went straight to My unit,no school no boot camp,just right to the unit.BTW I hate to say it but there are out of shape Leathernecks too.

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          • #6
            CavTrooper
            Calguns Addict
            • Jul 2007
            • 5944

            Originally posted by anthonyca
            Army basic training was a joke. It was tailored for teenage girls.
            When and where did you attend basic training? What was your MOS?

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            • #7
              Rem1492
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2007
              • 666

              Desert hit it. If you are a Marine you can transfer to other services. If you are another service you cannot transfer to the Marines.

              Marine basic is not a cakewalk. USAF and Coast Guard are. Incindentally, I am USAF, transferring to Coast Guard

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              • #8
                Desert_Rat
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 2289

                Originally posted by CavTrooper
                When and where did you attend basic training? What was your MOS?
                A serious Question here,
                Is there different "Basic training" For Grunts and POG's?

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                • #9
                  CavTrooper
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 5944

                  Originally posted by longbeach
                  I've never been in the military but I have seen many overweight Army guy's and never an out of shape Marine. If Army basic is so tough why would you have to do Marine basic If you wanted to join? Once Marines decide to join other branches they don't have to go to bootcamp because they have the toughest basic out of all branches?
                  According to the Coast Gaurd recruiter I spoke with, anyone who joins will go through their boot camp/basic training regardless of thier prior service, does this mean that the Coast Guard is just as hard as the Marine Corps?

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                  • #10
                    professorhard
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 2328

                    The drop out rates are because people join the Army thinking it will be easy and they can breeze through it, get the money and get on with it, then fail out when they realize its semi difficult. Fewer people join the Marine Corps thinking this, for the most part they want to be there and want to pass for pride/patriotic reasons. The AF is a joke, people expect it to be easy and it is, hence the low drop rate.
                    God, grant me the serenity
                    To accept the things I cannot change;
                    The courage to change the things I can;
                    And the wisdom to know the difference.

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                    • #11
                      Desert_Rat
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 2289

                      According to the Coast Gaurd recruiter I spoke with, anyone who joins will go through their boot camp/basic training regardless of thier prior service, does this mean that the Coast Guard is just as hard as the Marine Corps?


                      I'd say No. It's more of a niche service,being DOT and all.To tell you the truth I would have benefited from some sort of "in the Army now" Transitional training.Because the Army and the Marine Corps. are worlds apart,and not so much in a bad way.Just different.

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                      • #12
                        anthonyca
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2008
                        • 6316

                        Originally posted by CavTrooper
                        When and where did you attend basic training? What was your MOS?
                        Fort Jackson. 1996 52c air conditioning. The hvac\r training was actually very good and got me a well paying job when I got out. Basic was a joke!!!!
                        https://www.facebook.com/pages/Union...70812799700206

                        Originally posted by Wherryj
                        I am a physician. I am held to being "the expert" in medicine. I can't fall back on feigned ignorance and the statement that the patient should have known better than I. When an officer "can't be expected to know the entire penal code", but a citizen is held to "ignorance is no excuse", this is equivalent to ME being able to sue my patient for my own malpractice-after all, the patient should have known better, right?

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                        • #13
                          cgseanp1
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 4651

                          Originally posted by Rem1492
                          Desert hit it. If you are a Marine you can transfer to other services. If you are another service you cannot transfer to the Marines.

                          Marine basic is not a cakewalk. USAF and Coast Guard are. Incindentally, I am USAF, transferring to Coast Guard

                          Wanna see my tactical keyboard and low profile mouse?
                          Source? Sorry, but pretty sure the order of boot camp difficultness is AirForce, Navy, THEN Coast Guard, Army, Marines.
                          Last edited by cgseanp1; 10-26-2009, 9:18 PM.

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                          • #14
                            socaldsal
                            Member
                            • May 2009
                            • 430

                            Originally posted by Desert_Rat
                            A serious Question here,
                            Is there different "Basic training" For Grunts and POG's?
                            Yes.

                            Infantry - FT Benning
                            Cavalry - FT Knox
                            Armor-FT Knox
                            Everything else - everywhere else
                            "There can be no tyrants where there are no slaves." - Jose Rizal
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                            • #15
                              Desert_Rat
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 2289

                              Originally posted by socaldsal
                              Yes.

                              Infantry - FT Benning
                              Cavalry - FT Knox
                              Armor-FT Knox
                              Everything else - everywhere else
                              OK Thanks
                              I was always under the impression that basic was Basic and AIT was for MOS training.

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