Basic training attrition rates.

[Baja_Traveler]

According to the Coast Gaurd recruiter I spoke with, anyone who joins will go through their boot camp/basic training regardless of thier prior service, does this mean that the Coast Guard is just as hard as the Marine Corps?

When I went through Cape May I was told the attrition rate was the highest of all the services. Not necessarily related to physical ability - the Coast Guard does not accept Dumb S**ts.

Semper Paratus -

[M47_Dragon]

In the Marine Corps youve got MCRD and Perris Island..

Just a little correction...

In the USMC, you've got MCRD San Diego (male recruits from west of the Mississippi) and MCRD Parris Island (male recruits from east of the Mississippi, female from all over the US). They are both MCRD (Marine Corps Recruit Depot).

[chaled]

The thing about Perris Island that pissed me off was that our DI's didn't let any recruit fail...even when they should have. All these sh#tbag recruits in my platoon received the same title as Marine as I did even though they were carried through training like a freakin baby boo hoo. Our platoon faced serious consequences for any "Gomer Pyle" motivation we tried to instill upon these POS recruits so ya...FU recruit Miller!!!

[thebloodsonthewall]

I went through basic a few months ago at Fort Benning. I am not infantry but our basic was the same as theirs. We had lets see guys out of 60 not graduate. Three were for various medical reasons. Two were because they couldn't pass the pt test. We had one guy graduate with a broken arm.

It was pretty tough but I imagined it being harder.

[Desert_Rat]

The thing about Perris Island that pissed me off was that our DI's didn't let any recruit fail...even when they should have. All these sh#tbag recruits in my platoon received the same title as Marine as I did even though they were carried through training like a freakin baby boo hoo. Our platoon faced serious consequences for any "Gomer Pyle" motivation we tried to instill upon these POS recruits so ya...FU recruit Miller!!!

When I was in boot camp there were 117 recruits on training day 1 then only 74 on grad day.
HAHA you had Miller ours was Beasley.

[Super Spy]

Navy boot camp is fairly easy as long as you do what your told and keep your mouth shut. Sure at times they push you some physically, but as long as there are other guys in worse shape than you, no problem. Only the guy that stops doing push-ups and cries I can't do any more really gets screwed with. Most of the times I saw recruits get jumped all over it's for saying or doing something pretty stupid....most of the guys that washed out you wouldn't want beside you in a pinch anyways.

[PatriotnMore]

Agreed, if you can't make it through Navy boot camp, I wouldn't want that guy/gal watching my back, or have to rely on him/her with my life.

I would think with the internet and the amount of information available to today's recruits, the average new recruit is better than many who went through in my day "79". We had some real winners.

Navy boot camp is fairly easy as long as you do what your told and keep your mouth shut. Sure at times they push you some physically, but as long as there are other guys in worse shape than you, no problem. Only the guy that stops doing push-ups and cries I can't do any more really gets screwed with. Most of the times I saw recruits get jumped all over it's for saying or doing something pretty stupid....most of the guys that washed out you wouldn't want beside you in a pinch anyways.

[nick]

I'm sure this has nothing to do with the lower standards for recruits driven by high recruitment goals

From what I heard, with the economy being what it is, the Army recruiters turn a lot of people down these days.

[Swatguy10_15]

I went through basic at Ft. Jackson (Yea yea relaxin' in Jackson)..It was alot different than what I thought it would be..Im a fatbody,always have been..They did teach me how to deal with that,they pushed you intil you puked, let you recover then pushed some more..I hated them for it at the time but I look back and realize they showed me things I never ever would of though myself capable of doing..At the time the Army was hurting for people,subsquently nobody got "washed out" minus medical. There was alot of carrying soldiers, alot of pampering the similiar races etc..Thats life..Ive heard that being the overabundance of people trying to join now, the standards havent increased,but theyre stuck to.Not loosely.
As far as the "winners"..We had a couple of those..Oddly enough I remember getting an email that one of those "winners" had done some amazing things on a deployment and saved alot of soldiers lives..Dont judge people by theyre attitude at training.Training sucks.Its demoralizing and not everyone does well in that atmosphere.What matters is what they will do when the lead starts flying As stated below..

"Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". " Major General Chesty Puller, USMC ...

[dwa]

Fort Jackson. 1996 52c air conditioning. The hvac\r training was actually very good and got me a well paying job when I got out. Basic was a joke!!!!

you didn't think that basic for air conditioner guys to be like ranger school did you?

[M47_Dragon]

HAHA you had Miller ours was Beasley.

Ours was Recruit Howard.

You know how some DIs do funny things with drill commands? Our third hat started his 'Foward..." command with an H sound. He also used the 'ow' sound for the first syllable.

We'd be on the grinder ready to march, the DI would bark out "HOW-erd" and before he could get the "HARCH" out of his mouth, pvt. Howard would shout "YES SIR!"

That was just one of Howard's many screw-ups. Everyone wanted to kill poor Howard, but he made it.

[JaMail]

i joined the army when i was 17 as a jr in high school, during desert sheild, went to basic between jr and sr year, in my basic platoon, there were 3 people that didint speak english AT ALL, at night we were giving them english lessons.

the army isnt as worried about the qaulity of who joins, especially in time of war, anyone that volunteers gets accepted, they weed them out in basic & AIT.

medical care when your in basic blows, i almost ended up in the hospital ICU a week after basic cuz my lungs were filling up with liquid, i was swigging cough syrup and couging out a lung in the foxhole while i was taking my shooting test, i managed to pass anyway.

[cgseanp1]

From what I heard, with the economy being what it is, the Army recruiters turn a lot of people down these days.

My younger brother recently tried to join the Military.. He has a few minor blemishes on his record.. all branches but the Army turned him down. He never ended up enlisting, though.

[jamespres2001]

I went through USAF in '72. We had 4 drop outs out of 55. 1 Medical (guy weighed over 250 lbs) Other 3 decided "The military was not for them'. No one was 'Kicked out'. It was the Air Force for gods sake!

[JaMail]

yea, totally forgot about that, the army will give waivers for a LOT of legal issues.. assualt and battery, theft, whole nine yards.. 2nd day in basic they give the breifing for the UCMJ, and they end it with, "I dont care what your recruiters told you, they lied, if you have ever been arrested for ANYTHING, step up and fill out this form."