Billionaire dem finances libertarian pays off

[GoZoner]

Sarvis was a plant to divert votes away from the Republican candidate.

He wasn't a serious contender.

Right. Because the entirety of the American population is not smart enough to invent a Third Party to fight the tyranny brought to you by the Reps+Dems? Or maybe, there are other viewpoints that don't fit into Left vs Right that some people believe in and that warrants a political party. Shock. Freedom to create a political party and vote per ones values. Down right un-American?

"I gots my d*mn gun rights and alls I had to give up for them was the NSA, CIA, ATF knowing exactly wheres all of dem are ats"

[MXRider]

Somebody refresh my memory here, how have we in VA lost 2A rights with the governors race outcome going the way it did? You do realize it takes more than a democrat in the governors house to change laws for the better or worse, right? The dems don't have the power in the state house and senate to change anything.

Also, Sarvis stole votes from the democrat as well.

Looking at the voter map for the election, 2 counties swayed the vote heavily to the democratic party. They were Fairfax and Loudon counties. Even if Sarvis wasn't on the ticket, we still would have lost.

Want to blame somebody? Blame the GOP for not properly backing Cuccenelli financially. We got out spent, and the GOP refused to back him because he is more of a Tea Party candidate than a Rhino GOP candidate.

This coming from a VA resident who actually voted in the election and followed it closely.

BTW, we are still shall issue, no waiting period, no limit on monthly hand gun purchases, no assault weapon ban, no magazine capacity restrictions, SBR, SBS, suppressor and machine gun friendly.

[Dano3467]

It's clear that we need a real Candidate ( none RINO/Dem ) who's thinking straight, for 2A an pro Constitution. ( probably a lost cause ).

What seems the clearest of all is that we the people ( of this forum ) can't really seem to come together on a single candidate little lone a party...

We either all win, or all lose, this is how it looks to me, also to them ( enemy of the Constitution )

We can roll together, or together fall apart.

Your opinion may differ...

People seem to hold to clicks ( small groups ) us vs them, at times ( for some ) here is no different, sorry but you know this to be true. ( North vs South & so on ) Lets change this simple people mine set, and pull together for once, this Country is at stake.

Surely together we can do something, RIGHT !

Do it for the Children...

Sorry, will prolly get Flamed for this........... Oh well nothing new.

Bring it on.

[ja308]

On March 19th Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe (D) used his first veto to strike down a bill "meant to clarify state law" regarding how gun owners without a concealed carry permit may store firearms in a vehicle.
The bill, HB 962, was sponsored by Delegate Benjamin L. Cline (R-Rockbridge).

Will someone please explain why a democrat billionare would get a libertarian on the ballot if it would help the republican ?

The libertarian party is borderline anarchy ! It is impossible for a big govt democrat to vote libertarian . They are direct opposites !

I'm convinced the majority of medical marijuana cards are issued to libertarians !

[ja308]

Robert Sarvis, the Libertarian-party candidate for Virginia’s governorship, received backing from a major Obama campaign bundler.

As The Blaze reports, campaign-finance records show that the largest independent contribution to Sarvis’s campaign came from the Libertarian Booster PAC, the largest benefactor of which is Joe Liemandt, an Austin, Texas–based software billionaire who has “bundled” donations for President Obama....

[m03]

If you want Republicans to win from here on out, have them represent logical positions which would make more people want to vote for them. As long as they're seen as the anti-gay, anti-science, anti-legalization party, they will continue to lose elections.

It doesn't get any simpler than that.

Fail When was the last time a REPUBLICAN thought up and wrote major anti gun legislation?

VERY recently. In fact, a supposedly "pro-gun" Republican was responsible for the Manchin-Toomey background check bill:

http://www.toomey.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=968

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Toomey

[VegasND]

ja308 isn't much interested in Constitutional government. He just worships at the altar of the 'R' and would support anybody that registers Republican. He does not care what Republicans are or what they do -- he just wants them to win. Very pragmatic party hack. Notice he constantly insults Libertarians and pays no attention to the facts about voting patterns?

If you want Republicans to win from here on out, have them represent logical positions which would make more people want to vote for them. As long as they're seen as the anti-gay, anti-science, anti-legalization party, they will continue to lose elections.

It doesn't get any simpler than that.



VERY recently. In fact, a supposedly "pro-gun" Republican was responsible for the Manchin-Toomey background check bill:

http://www.toomey.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=968

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Toomey

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Regarding constitutional govt, its regretfully a losing issue with the majority of people who compose the various groups required to win elections.

If constitutional govt were a popular concept, we would note Calgunners could outline the bill of rights, the source of rights and the purpose of govt.

Regretfully not one Calgunner who has posted could answer these 3 elements regarding the constitution .

So I refuse to jump on the bash CC bandwagon and will keep on open mind . I sure would prefer him to what we have now .

[ja308]

If you want Republicans to win from here on out, have them represent logical positions which would make more people want to vote for them. As long as they're seen as the anti-gay, anti-science, anti-legalization party, they will continue to lose elections.

It doesn't get any simpler than that.



VERY recently. In fact, a supposedly "pro-gun" Republican was responsible for the Manchin-Toomey background check bill:

http://www.toomey.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=968

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Toomey

Please explain how the republicans are anti science, anti gay !
I understand the Legalization issue .

Incidentally Toomeys big plans were stopped by the GOP . Its unlikely he will get another term too .

Here is just one example of a republican governor preserving RKBA for those in Nevada !

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/13/brian-sandoval-background-checks_n_3438791.html

LAS VEGAS, June 13 (Reuters) - Nevada Governor Brian Sandoval on Thursday vetoed Democratic-backed legislation that would have strengthened gun-control rules by requiring background checks on customers in all gun sales in the state, including private transactions.

The Republican governor said in a veto statement that the bill amounted to an erosion of Nevadans' constitutional right to bear arms that would do "little to prevent criminals from unlawfully obtaining firearms."

[GoZoner]

You have missed the bigger picture. What good are your gun rights if the Feds, they be Reps+Dems, have spied everything; have databases with all your weapons not through 'registration' but through the NSA+CIA+FBI using 'big data'; have license place readers attached to every police car; have cameras at every intersection? When the DHS has more bullets than the Army; when a looney with a gun is labelled a terrorist and the SWAT+ team takes him down; when whole cities, Boston, are placed under martial law. Reps+Dems brought this on us.

You are utterly short-sighted to vote Rep because they will support your 2A rights while they utterly destroy every other liberty. (And Cuccenelli is an idiot besides. He deserved to lose. if he is the best the Reps can draft; woe is you as a Rep.)

Time for a bigger picture friend.

[Dano3467]

^^^ This has merit !

[ja308]

In over 40 years the libertarian party has elected NO ONE ! Why ? Because the libertarian platform is frankly borderline anarchy and its proponents are big mouthed, ignorant, know it alls, who are unable to even understand a simple concept like the free state project .

Yeah try reading a few libertarian books. Start with Molon Labe, every republican I know has read it ! Apparently libertarians enjoy the Cartoon Network more than libertarian writers .

Let's examine the groups of people who are traditional voters.1 The elderly getting SS and Medicare .
2 Public employee unions, that represent city, county, state, and fed gov. traditionally democrats who use the force of govt for perks .
3 Private employee unions, like AFLCIO, who endorse democrats .
4 Black and other groups who consider themselves victims. Typically democrat .
5 the Christian Right or moral majority, who abhor the idea of anarchy . Typically republican.
6 gun owners and tea party types , typically republican .

Democrats understand these facts which is why they finance libertarians !
Yeah I get it ! Every republican is no good ! Well pal try dealing with real life.

The fact the tea party and get out the vote groups were targeted by the Obama IRS should tell even the dumbest libertarian who the power structure fears !

My libertarian vote elected Dianne Feinstein ! As for Richard Boddie ! He didn't win and went back to wherever he came from . Yeah Feinstein is still working against my ever interest

[safewaysecurity]

If the Repubs wouldncut the crap and stop acting like crooks people wouldnt need to vote Libertarian. Its a.sign of "look you cant keep playing this game, either join us or the Republican party dies" so hopefully we will oust senators like Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnell this year.

[Hoooper]

Unfortunately, the "blame everyone but ourselves" portion of the Republican party will ignore the fact that sarvis drew twice as many votes away from the democrats as he did from the Republicans.

[LoneYote]

Unfortunately, the "blame everyone but ourselves" portion of the Republican party will ignore the fact that sarvis drew twice as many votes away from the democrats as he did from the Republicans.

Brought up several times and ignored. Ja308 just wants to throw a hissy fit and hurl insults... /thread

[uxo2]

Sorry but this vote the least worst candidate doesn't work anymore
how can anybody support the GOP after the destruction of our Constitution under the Bushes, a-la Patriot Act,
when are you gonna realize there isn't a dimes worth of difference between the 2 partys?

Patriot act.

Supported by both sides.