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  • #31
    LoneYote
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 608

    Originally posted by uxo2
    Patriot act.

    Supported by both sides.
    Which somehow means the GOP was not involved how?!
    "I do not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire
    Originally posted by mossy
    let me guess this means the case will move as fast as a Tuttle on heroin now instead of a snail on salt.................
    Originally posted by Librarian
    Need we have a moderator behind every blade of grass?

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    • #32
      mmayer707
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2012
      • 713

      Originally posted by LoneYote
      Which somehow means the GOP was not involved how?!
      He was blaming Bush for it. They pointed out that both sides passed the patriot Act. Do you have reading comprehension issues or something?

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      • #33
        LoneYote
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 608

        Originally posted by mmayer707
        He was blaming Bush for it. They pointed out that both sides passed the patriot Act. Do you have reading comprehension issues or something?
        See the quote used... emphasis mine
        Originally posted by Ninask
        Sorry but this vote the least worst candidate doesn't work anymore
        how can anybody support the GOP after the destruction of our Constitution under the Bushes, a-la Patriot Act,
        when are you gonna realize there isn't a dimes worth of difference between the 2 partys?
        Ninask is not saying the GOP is ONLY responsible simply that the GOP was part of it. Uxo2 seems to be arguing that it was supported by both parties in the contrary to the idea that it was just the GOP.

        Maybe a little reading comprehension on your part would help Mmayer....
        "I do not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." - Voltaire
        Originally posted by mossy
        let me guess this means the case will move as fast as a Tuttle on heroin now instead of a snail on salt.................
        Originally posted by Librarian
        Need we have a moderator behind every blade of grass?

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        • #34
          mmayer707
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2012
          • 713

          Originally posted by LoneYote
          See the quote used... emphasis mine


          Ninask is not saying the GOP is ONLY responsible simply that the GOP was part of it. Uxo2 seems to be arguing that it was supported by both parties in the contrary to the idea that it was just the GOP.

          Maybe a little reading comprehension on your part would help Mmayer....
          I guess I am still comprehending it a bit differently than you. It sounds to me that he is saying that the GOP is responsible because of Bush. I guess each person can contort something in their mind the way they see fit.

          Maybe you missed this post?

          Originally posted by Ninask
          Who do you think has been in power over the last 21 years? What do you think the Patriot Act does to ANY Constitutional rights???
          The whole BS war on terror is nothing more than a EXCUSE to destroy the Constitution, and the GOP is numero uno when it comes to who is responsible, wake up! Talk about FAIL
          n
          Last edited by mmayer707; 03-23-2014, 10:50 PM.

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          • #35
            RRangel
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Oct 2005
            • 5164

            Originally posted by GoZoner
            1) The NSA is a Rep+Dem creation; they know, or can know, where all the guns are.

            2) The VA Rep party threw away your RKBA by not supporting the Libertarian candidate.

            3) http://thefederalist.com/2013/11/06/...inia-election/ "Liberals were more than twice as likely as conservatives to support Sarvis."

            4) Besides, Cuccinelli was/is a fool. Medieval-Sounding Sodomy Law the Helped Ken Cuccinelli Lose in Virginia "Democratic opponents who successfully portrayed Cuccinelli as a medieval anti-women, anti-gay, conservative extremist"
            The Virginia "Libertarian" candidate was a plant. Robert Sarvis is a phony. If you had any idea, of the situation, you wouldn't have made such a clueless post. The original poster could have explained it better but uniformed voters in Virginia were had.

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            • #36
              RRangel
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2005
              • 5164

              Originally posted by ja308
              http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...nst-Gun-Owners

              This race was winnable by A rated atty General Ken Cuccenelli until a billionare friend of Obama poured money into the libertarian party and Robert Sarvis.
              Robert Sarvis, the Libertarian-party candidate for Virginia’s governorship, received backing from a major Obama campaign bundler. As The Blaze reports, campaign-finance records show that the larges…


              A democrat owned newspaper also endorsed the libertarian Sarvis who avhieved nearly 9 % of the republican vote .

              Good job libertarians ! With friends like you RKBA has suffered a setback in Virginia
              Robert Sarvis publicly stated, he wanted government GPS in cars, in order to tax citizens among other things. Libertarian my ***. That election was a testament to how uninformed voters ruin everything.

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              • #37
                hermosabeach
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Feb 2009
                • 19103

                Turnout 2,240,314 voters


                in 2012 Virginia had 5,428,833 registered voters......

                So 2.2 million out of almost 5 1/2 Million voted....
                Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                • #38
                  mavericksun
                  Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 349

                  Originally posted by CharleyVCU1988
                  Hint - King Bloomberg is (or I think was) a Republican.
                  Bloomberg was a Democrat before he changed his registration to Republican to run for NYC mayor. He could never win the Democratic nomination in NYC since he was seen as too much of a business person to be a true NYC Democrat. He also wanted to capitalize on the popularity of Giuliani. After his second win, he became an Independent. Bloomberg is no Republican.

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                  • #39
                    Jimi Jah
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 17775

                    Never overestimate the intellegence of the American voter. They can be bought easily with a nice face and a few well placed promises on TV.

                    We have the leadership we deserve.

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                    • #40
                      ChrisC
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 2469

                      Originally posted by Ronin2
                      Fail When was the last time a REPUBLICAN thought up and wrote major anti gun legislation?
                      Epic fail When was the last time a REPUBLICAN signed anti gun legislation. If you are going to blame the author, you have to put more blame on the signer. No bill becomes law with out it being signed or ignored and plenty of REPUBLICANS have signed a lot of anti gun bills into law.

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                      • #41
                        MagnumDweeb
                        Junior Member
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 75

                        I'm a damn strong Red southern Republican but the GOP has gotten sick since Bush. Bush did more to harm the party than most realize. What he did to this country will cost the party for generations. The Patriot Act was horrible, not killing NAFTA was horrible. Going into Iraq was horrible (because hey, let's kill off Iran's biggest threat and achieve nothing but lining the pockets of Profiteer corporations) and the resources we poured into it we should have put in Afghanistan because if we had Afghanistan could have returned to its Pre-Soviet invasion glory. Oh and stem cell research, thanks for turning back the clock on that. He revealed the U.S. to be a paper tiger and exhausted much of our military ranks and equipment.

                        The only good thing shrub did was let the AWB die off. Oh and helped a bunch of Africans (can't fault him for that).

                        The Cuch was a right-wing bible-beating zealot that had a horrible track record on women's rights. He was repugnant.

                        Get me a Republican candidate who is Pro-choice (or at least doesn't spout off about abortion), who is for reducing the nation's debt, undoing the Patriot Act, undoing NAFTA, undoing the mandate portion of the ACA, willing to tax the uber rich (those who earn in excess of 100 million a year) to pay for repairing our faltering infrastructure with American jobs and only made in America materials, is hardfast agaisnt another AWB or other encroaching legistlation when it comes the RKBA, and you'd have a politician capable of getting votes from Republicans, Libertarians, and Democrats.

                        The GOP needs to stop the bible thumping, or at least tone it down some, it's costing them votes.

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                        • #42
                          ja308
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 12660

                          W Bush was an opponent of state and federal lawsuits against firearms manufacturers. An 11th hour victory of the Clinton administration was a landmark deal with firearms manufacturer Smith & Wesson that would see lawsuits cease in exchange for the company including trigger locks with gun sales and implementing smart gun technology. Early in his presidency, Bush’s stance on gun industry lawsuits led to Smith & Wesson withdrawing from its promises made to the Clinton White House. In 2005, Bush signed legislation providing the gun industry federal protection.

                          Beginning to wonder if a few Calgunners have state sanctioned marijuana cards ? Seems collectively many are having memory issues of 8 years of having a friend in the White House with George W Bush .


                          Libertarian party platform calls for open borders ! Libertarians will claim they really don't mean it, proving once again a libertarian is anything you think it is ! Maybe the medical marijuana card helps ?

                          With 40 years of never winning an election, its impossible to know what they would do .
                          Libertarian Sarvis recommended GPS devices on automobiles and he got 9% of the vote !
                          Last edited by ja308; 03-24-2014, 11:56 AM.

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                          • #43
                            GoZoner
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 631

                            Yeah, Bush grew one nice tree while the forest burned.
                            - It is no longer Republican vs Democrat; the battle of the 21st century is authoritarian (Rep+Dem) vs libertarian.
                            - The Republican Tent is Full of Elephant Sh*t
                            - The Democrat Elixir is Donkey P*ss
                            - NRA Life Member

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                            • #44
                              ja308
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 12660

                              Originally posted by MagnumDweeb
                              I'm a damn strong Red southern Republican but the GOP has gotten sick since Bush. Bush did more to harm the party than most realize. What he did to this country will cost the party for generations. The Patriot Act was horrible, not killing NAFTA was horrible. Going into Iraq was horrible (because hey, let's kill off Iran's biggest threat and achieve nothing but lining the pockets of Profiteer corporations) and the resources we poured into it we should have put in Afghanistan because if we had Afghanistan could have returned to its Pre-Soviet invasion glory. Oh and stem cell research, thanks for turning back the clock on that. He revealed the U.S. to be a paper tiger and exhausted much of our military ranks and equipment.

                              The only good thing shrub did was let the AWB die off. Oh and helped a bunch of Africans (can't fault him for that).

                              The Cuch was a right-wing bible-beating zealot that had a horrible track record on women's rights. He was repugnant.

                              Get me a Republican candidate who is Pro-choice (or at least doesn't spout off about abortion), who is for reducing the nation's debt, undoing the Patriot Act, undoing NAFTA, undoing the mandate portion of the ACA, willing to tax the uber rich (those who earn in excess of 100 million a year) to pay for repairing our faltering infrastructure with American jobs and only made in America materials, is hardfast agaisnt another AWB or other encroaching legistlation when it comes the RKBA, and you'd have a politician capable of getting votes from Republicans, Libertarians, and Democrats.

                              The GOP needs to stop the bible thumping, or at least tone it down some, it's costing them votes.

                              You sound like a democrat !
                              Republicans value life, yeah even those who are unborn !

                              Principled Christians are the base of the GOP . We can easily afford to lose a few dumbed down, doped up, libertarian types. We cannot afford to lose the Christian Right ! It's called a coalition !
                              They support our gun rights, we support right to life, marriage as one man, one woman. Religious freedom etc.

                              Regarding the Iraq war, Every member of congress voted for it ! So your problem is with the entire elected branches of fed gov.

                              The nafta agree was promoted and signed by Clintoon ! It's here to stay and the long term plans for nafta are not good. In the works, are a North American govt to lord over the sovereign nations contained within the agreement .

                              As for taxing the rich ! They earned its their money ! Tax Exxon Mobil ? Watch your gas prices go up ! Corporations cannot be taxed, only their customers .

                              Im not sure if your a gunowner or not, but Cucchelli was A rated NRA ! Further the law he proposed was intended to protect young people against adult predators ! In this case a 17 year old propositioned by. 47 year old .


                              I suggest you move on and make yourself more successful and get over the " class envy " your post exhibits !
                              Last edited by ja308; 03-24-2014, 12:21 PM.

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                              • #45
                                steve91104
                                Veteran Member
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 2805

                                Originally posted by LoneYote
                                Maybe instead of blaming the voters, republicans should work on being a little less repugnant to the voting public...
                                yep, +1

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