Foreign visitors with Visas cant shoot at the range

[Darklyte27]

We have a coworker from another country, we told him about taking him to the range only to be let down. We were told unless he has a green card or hunters license he couldnt shoot.

18 usc 922 g 5 b and 922 y 2 27 cfr 478.11 478.32

BS or what!!

[MontClaire]

As far as I know, if you go in like a regular guy, nobody asks you nothing except : are you a member? What type of target? do you need ear/eye pro? That should be it.

[Darklyte27]

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-nonimmigrant-alien-who-has-been-admitted-united-states-under-nonimmigrant-visa

[Darklyte27]

As far as I know, if you go in like a regular guy, nobody asks you nothing except : are you a member? What type of target? do you need ear/eye pro? That should be it.

You have to sign their waiver, and they ask for ID.
I was at the range already and he arrived w my other coworkers and 1 came and told me they wont let him shoot or even enter.

Sounds like the ranges lawyer doesnt want to take a chance, i understand tht but this law is bs.

[russ69]

...We were told unless he has a green card or hunters license he couldn't shoot...

It is the law, it may sound silly but it's still the law.

[CCWFacts]

There used to be tourist groups (often Japanese) at shooting ranges quite often, and lately I haven't been seeing that.

From that statement in the link, it sounds clear that tourists (without hunting permits or other special exemptions) can't shoot, even a rental at a range. Is that accurate?

[Swampcrip]

Ive taken a numer of foreign friends to indoor ranges with no issue. On target and firing lime to name a few.

I don't do indoor ranges anymore but that's just for personal safety.

[CCWFacts]

Ive taken a numer of foreign friends to indoor ranges with no issue.

Me too, but if this isn't strictly legal, I won't anymore.

[Ora Serrata]

Last time I took a foreign friend to the range he was a UK LEO (armed unit carries an MP5 on the job ). They had no problem with his LEO ID.

[packnrat]

a number of indoor ranges used to make good money selling time to japanese tourists.
now thanks to another anti law from the demigods this way to make money is gone.

the demigods want total control, and good money ( aka tax paying) companys to fold.

[osis32]

I took a Japanese national to Chabot about 6 years ago with no issues.

[userformerlyknownasfitty]

You're in the East Bay right? I've taken my non-citizen friend and girlfriend to target Masters west before. They just need a licence or a passport I believe. On top of signing a waiver and all that stuff of course. Just try to call a few places up and see which ones might let you take your friends shooting.

[M1NM]

Didn't they nail some students here on a visa for gun violations a few months ago?

[Whiterabbit]

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-...immigrant-visa

Not posession. YOU are in posession of a firearm in immediate vicinity of the immigrant shooting it.

I also take many foreign nationals and work permit coworkers shooting. I do not hide the fact.

None of these folks can legally buy a gun. Why? Your link. Unless they maintain a hunting lisence...

[CCWFacts]

What qualifies as a hunting license? Can it be from any state / locality? If so, what's the easiest / fastest / cheapest hunting license to get? I've never even looked at hunting licenses so I don't know much about it. If there's a way to get one on-line for not much money that might be a way to stay out of any gray areas for tourists who want to go to a shooting range.

Edit: I found out that Pennsylvania offers a non-resident hunting license (available to tourists), which you buy on-line for about $100, takes one to two weeks to arrive. Is that the cheapest / easiest non-res hunting license?