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  • #46
    JTROKS
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2007
    • 13093

    This POtuS will jack up the prices on black rifles and certain semi-auto pistols and shotguns. I hope he doesn't succeed, but as all of us know as soon as there's a threat of a gun ban the price goes through the roof.
    The wise man said just find your place
    In the eye of the storm
    Seek the roses along the way
    Just beware of the thorns...
    K. Meine

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    • #47
      ElvenSoul
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Apr 2008
      • 17431

      Originally posted by CessnaDriver
      What's that line he always says? no other developed country in the world blah bla blah?

      Well what about the THUG culture that permeates some of our communities like no other developed country in the world?

      No no no, don't talk about that.
      It is a National Disgrace but we have been exporting our Gangsta Thug Ways to other countries for some time now. You can go to just about any country and feel right at home in their urban centers. Gangsta Rap and pants dragging just like I the US.
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      • #48
        IVC
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jul 2010
        • 17594

        Originally posted by ChrisC
        He doesn't have that power to do that,m no president does.
        Wow, the hell is about to freeze over - ChrisC has acknowledged that it's the legislative branch that creates laws and not the executive branch.

        I assume (hope and change) that from now on we are not going to hear about all the CA *governors* who are allegedly responsible for gun control laws in CA... Right?
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        • #49
          JTROKS
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Nov 2007
          • 13093

          Can this POtuS exercise executive order to ban our black rifles?
          The wise man said just find your place
          In the eye of the storm
          Seek the roses along the way
          Just beware of the thorns...
          K. Meine

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          • #50
            Rodell
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Jul 2013
            • 557

            Originally posted by JTROKS
            Can this POtuS exercise executive order to ban our black rifles?
            http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/01/ca...ecutive-order/
            Not really, but, he could tell the military they cannot buy any weaponry from any company that sells pattern rifles to civilians. It could go even further and say the military cannot buy anything from any company that sells firearms to civilians. Would it hold? Probably, for quite a while at least.

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            • #51
              Cowboy T
              Calguns Addict
              • Mar 2010
              • 5706

              Originally posted by IVC
              Wow, the hell is about to freeze over - ChrisC has acknowledged that it's the legislative branch that creates laws and not the executive branch.

              I assume (hope and change) that from now on we are not going to hear about all the CA *governors* who are allegedly responsible for gun control laws in CA... Right?
              Yes, you will, because they did sign those bad laws, so they were complicit as well, right along with the legislators (e. g. Don Mulford) who passed them through the California Assembly.

              How'd I do?
              "San Francisco Liberal With A Gun"
              F***ing with people's heads, one gun show at a time. Hallelujah!
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              • #52
                Cowboy T
                Calguns Addict
                • Mar 2010
                • 5706

                Originally posted by CessnaDriver
                What's that line he always says? no other developed country in the world blah bla blah?

                Well what about the THUG culture that permeates some of our communities like no other developed country in the world?
                Oh, I agree! We need to get rid of it. And we can start with this guy.


                The now-fired white cop pulled over Scott, who is black, for speeding, and was caught on tape shooting him in the back as he ran away


                Then we can move on to Ronald Ritchie and the thugs who killed John Crawford.


                The shopper who accused an Ohio man of pointing a fake gun at children and adults walking inside a Walmart is now changing his story. Ronald Ritchie originally told police that John Crawford III wa…



                Originally posted by CessnaDriver
                No no no, don't talk about that.
                Yeah, sadly, that's indeed the reaction I see a lot when this kind of thuggery is pointed out. And that reaction shouldn't be.
                Last edited by Cowboy T; 11-30-2015, 10:02 PM.
                "San Francisco Liberal With A Gun"
                F***ing with people's heads, one gun show at a time. Hallelujah!
                http://www.sanfranciscoliberalwithagun.com (reloading info w/ videos)
                http://www.liberalsguncorner.com (podcast)
                http://www.youtube.com/sfliberal (YouTube channel)
                ----------------------------------------------------
                To be a true Liberal, you must be 100% pro-Second Amendment. Anything less is inconsistent with liberalism.

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                • #53
                  IVC
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 17594

                  Originally posted by Cowboy T
                  Yes, you will, because they did sign those bad laws, so they were complicit as well, right along with the legislators (e. g. Don Mulford) who passed them through the California Assembly.

                  How'd I do?
                  You'd have to claim that we have bad laws *because of* Republican governors, not that they were merely "complicit."

                  Then your conversion to the dark side complete will be.
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                  • #54
                    ja308
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 12660

                    Originally posted by IVC
                    Wow, the hell is about to freeze over - ChrisC has acknowledged that it's the legislative branch that creates laws and not the executive branch.

                    I assume (hope and change) that from now on we are not going to hear about all the CA *governors* who are allegedly responsible for gun control laws in CA... Right?
                    IVC that's not how liberals and libertarians work ! They work on the premise that its always a republican responsible for a restriction of rights;i.e. The democrat legislature writes and passes antigun bill that is signed by a republican executive . Who's to blame, of course the republican. Now if a republican legilsature passes a progun bill that is vetoed by a democrat executive, then its still the republicans fault, for not writing a bill the democrat would sign .

                    Regarding the thug/rap culture so prevalent in some of our more easily led community's; it is a direct attack on decency, empathy annd compasssion . Its written, promoted and sold by huge antigun media entities.

                    Their goal is to promote a violent anti social society ! Their purpose is to degrade society in order to require a police type state, where rights do not exist !

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                    • #55
                      CessnaDriver
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 10500

                      Originally posted by Cowboy T
                      Oh, I agree! We need to get rid of it. And we can start with this guy.


                      The now-fired white cop pulled over Scott, who is black, for speeding, and was caught on tape shooting him in the back as he ran away


                      Then we can move on to Ronald Ritchie and the thugs who killed John Crawford.


                      The shopper who accused an Ohio man of pointing a fake gun at children and adults walking inside a Walmart is now changing his story. Ronald Ritchie originally told police that John Crawford III wa…





                      Yeah, sadly, that's indeed the reaction I see a lot when this kind of thuggery is pointed out. And that reaction shouldn't be.
                      Of course, and that is why I say "thug culture" and not any particular race or whatever.
                      Thug culture can permeate any culture and poison young minds.
                      Look at how the mafia are celebrated. But we do live in an era
                      of "gangsta" thug culture leading the charge in poisoning communities
                      that have the highest murder rates, and somehow to point it out makes
                      one racists even though it's pointed out to try to fix it by identifying the problems. One gets the impression those that claim to care the most about it, don't want it solved, rather they can keep blaming their political enemies and guns.
                      Last edited by CessnaDriver; 12-01-2015, 8:53 AM.


                      "Yeah, like... well, I just want to slap a hippie or two. Maybe even make them get jobs."

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                      • #56
                        JTROKS
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 13093

                        Originally posted by Rodell
                        Not really, but, he could tell the military they cannot buy any weaponry from any company that sells pattern rifles to civilians. It could go even further and say the military cannot buy anything from any company that sells firearms to civilians. Would it hold? Probably, for quite a while at least.
                        The president cannot pressure military contracts to go his way. Well Obama will have a hard time. If it was Bush and Cheney yes they can.

                        Executive Order to ban so called AW guns is highly possible if Supreme Court is full of antis.
                        The wise man said just find your place
                        In the eye of the storm
                        Seek the roses along the way
                        Just beware of the thorns...
                        K. Meine

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                        • #57
                          Rodell
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 557

                          Originally posted by JTROKS
                          The president cannot pressure military contracts to go his way. Well Obama will have a hard time. If it was Bush and Cheney yes they can.

                          Executive Order to ban so called AW guns is highly possible if Supreme Court is full of antis.
                          He certainly can. It is not a lot different from ordering that all suppliers to the government have to pay a certain wage.

                          Such a move would certainly distract from his disastrous foreign policy.

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                          • #58
                            ja308
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 12660

                            Originally posted by rootuser
                            Some may take offense to the idea that Louisiana (The state with the highest murder by gun rate by far) is not civilized. They just elected a democrat who had no business winning that election. It's having less and less to do with Repbulican vs Democrat as we will see in the 2016 cycle very clearly.
                            louisanna is very civilised with the exception of NewOrleans ! One could sumrmise most states have "big cities" that dictate a states policy . Too bad states dont have an electorial college system regarding counties to counter the popular vote of big city types .

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                            • #59
                              Sabot
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 545

                              Next election the "people" of California will vote to confiscate our normal capacity magazines.

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                              • #60
                                rootuser
                                Veteran Member
                                • Dec 2012
                                • 3018

                                Originally posted by ja308
                                louisanna is very civilised with the exception of NewOrleans ! One could sumrmise most states have "big cities" that dictate a states policy . Too bad states dont have an electorial college system regarding counties to counter the popular vote of big city types .
                                One man, one vote! Rural counties and their inhabitants are no more important than Urban counties and their people.

                                I think as the 2A is concerned you are beginning to see more and more pro-2A democrats (Louisiana for example) as well as anti-2A Republicans (Carson, Christie, others). The lines around the 2A are getting blurred.

                                I think the 2016 cycle will be telltale on many things, but not the 2A. Because pro-2A votes don't seemingly turn out any more than a typical vote, I think it is difficult the assess the impact of the 2A on the upcoming election. I think there are other issues (social, economic etc) that are what the election will hinge on.

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