Question to clarify private sale of a firearms magazine

[Joe Kidd]

[AJAX22]

Wait mags are ammo?

So if I have an empty magazine in a gun it is now deemed loaded?

[simonp]

Who/ where are magazines defined as ammo???


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[ontmark]

you can sell and ship any magazine that is ten rounds max or less to anyone you want to in California

[Dvrjon]

Mags are defined as "ammunition" only in conjunction with prohibited persons.

If you aren't prohibited, mags are still mags.

Ca PEN 16150 https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...0.&lawCode=PEN

16150.
(a) As used in this part, except in subdivision (a) of Section 30305 and in Section 30306, “ammunition” means one or more loaded cartridges consisting of a primed case, propellant, and with one or more projectiles. “Ammunition” does not include blanks.

(b) As used in subdivision (a) of Section 30305 and in Section 30306, “ammunition” includes, but is not limited to, any bullet, cartridge, magazine, clip, speed loader, autoloader, or projectile capable of being fired from a firearm with a deadly consequence. “Ammunition” does not include blanks.

CA PEn 30305/30306:

30305. https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...5.&lawCode=PEN
(a) (1) No person prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm under Chapter 2 (commencing with Section 29800) or Chapter 3 (commencing with Section 29900) of Division 9 of this title, or Section 8100 or 8103 of the Welfare and Institutions Code, shall own, possess, or have under custody or control, any ammunition or reloaded ammunition.

30306. https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...6.&lawCode=PEN
(a) Any person, corporation, firm, or other business enterprise who supplies, delivers, sells, or gives possession or control of, any ammunition to any person who he or she knows or using reasonable care should know is prohibited from owning, possessing, or having under custody or control, any ammunition or reloaded ammunition pursuant to subdivision (a) or (b) of Section 30305, is guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both that fine and imprisonment.

[Joe Kidd]

Many thanks. Confusion resolved.

[big red]

Have to be clear on which laws you intend to violate by ignoring them. How soon before the CADOJ requires you to register every mag you own? A matter of time think.

[morrcarr67]

Have to be clear on which laws you intend to violate by ignoring them. How soon before the CADOJ requires you to register every mag you own? A matter of time think.

That should be fun. I say re register one at a time to see how long it takes for them to say uncle.

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[Dvrjon]

Just for clarification:

Have to be clear on which laws you intend to violate by ignoring them. How soon before the CADOJ requires you to register every mag you own? A matter of time think.

CALDOJ doesn't have a legislative mandate to register magazines. That has to be driven by the Legislature through new statute. However, unlike firearms, since mags have no individual identity, this might be very impossible to accomplish.

That should be fun. I say re register one at a time to see how long it takes for them to say uncle.

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You can't "re-register" mags because they aren't registered now.

Thanks.

[morrcarr67]

Just for clarification:CALDOJ doesn't have a legislative mandate to register magazines. That has to be driven by the Legislature through new statute. However, unlike firearms, since mags have no individual identity, this might be very impossible to accomplish.

You can't "re-register" mags because they aren't registered now.

Thanks.

Typo. For some reason there was a re in there.

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