80% lowers MERGED THREADS - please ask in here, not a new thread

[uglyduckling]

^^ Citation? Or a better explaination?

[shaocaholica]

^^ Citation? Or a better explaination?

Sorry are you talking about assault weapon registration or just voluntary registration.

[uglyduckling]

Just voluntary registration, if it is even needed.

[familyfarm]

Just voluntary registration, if it is even needed.

By 7/1/2018 it will be illegal (according to the DOJ regs) to possess just about any unserialized home build. There is some confusion about bare receivers right now but most believe you have two options:

1. Before 7/1/2018 engrave to ATF specs and volreg so that your own unique serial is recorded in the central db. Thats what I did on my home builds

2. Apply to DOJ for serial numbers (I forget the form number) and quickly engrave those.

I seem to recall someone saying that CFARS (DOJ online reg site) now has a drop down list that includes the 80% makers as well as the option of registering a bare receiver (rather than a fully assembled firearm). Volreg through CFARS is far faster and does NOT require pics so you might want to go that route. Not sure how to fill out the paper form with just a receiver but maybe someone else ca help there.

YMMV

[uglyduckling]

By 7/1/2018 it will be illegal (according to the DOJ regs) to possess just about any unserialized home build. There is some confusion about bare receivers right now but most believe you have two options:

What if the lower is already engraved?

1. Before 7/1/2018 engrave to ATF specs and volreg so that your own unique serial is recorded in the central db. Thats what I did on my home builds. Can you volreg just a lower?

2. Apply to DOJ for serial numbers (I forget the form number) and quickly engrave those.

I seem to recall someone saying that CFARS (DOJ online reg site) now has a drop down list that includes the 80% makers as well as the option of registering a bare receiver (rather than a fully assembled firearm). Volreg through CFARS is far faster and does NOT require pics so you might want to go that route. Not sure how to fill out the paper form with just a receiver but maybe someone else ca help there. Thanks

YMMV

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[Cokebottle]

It needed to be a complete rifle at the stroke of midnight on 12/31/2016.

Only if you intend to use it with a bullet button and register as a BBAW.

There is much confusion as there are two separate and distinct laws with different dates and requirements. There is some overlap.

You CAN VolReg an existing 80% lower.
You can not assemble it into an AR with a bullet button.

[kryan]

any word back?

heard anything?

Just filled out Firearm Ownership Report forms for my 80% 1911 builds. 7 total.

I am submitting pictures in current configuration - one of the right side of the pistol and one of the serial markings up close. Stating in the comments how the pistols were built.

Will report back on how it goes.

[kryan]

we need a current FLOWCHART

like this....

[uglyduckling]

Only if you intend to use it with a bullet button and register as a BBAW.

There is much confusion as there are two separate and distinct laws with different dates and requirements. There is some overlap.

You CAN VolReg an existing 80% lower.
You can not assemble it into an AR with a bullet button.

Can you VolReg a former 80% lower, now 100%, that is properly engraved? Or does it not need to be VolReg'd if it remains an empty lower?

[Cokebottle]

Can you VolReg a former 80% lower, now 100%, that is properly engraved? Or does it not need to be VolReg'd if it remains an empty lower?

Again, 80% and AW are two entirely different categories.

A completed 80% lower is a firearm, and generally not logged into a central registry (the whole point of 80% builds)
Yes, an 80% frame or lower must comply with the same laws that apply to a pistol or a rifle.
It needs to be VolReg'd, whether built out into a pistol/rifle or not. A bare lower would not be registerable as a pistol due to the roster, so it will forever be branded (in California) as a long gun.

An empty 80% lower is neither centerfire, nor semiautomatic, so it would not fall under AW registration, and the DOJ will reject a BBRAW application.
A completed 80% build eligible for BBRAW status is required to have a DOJ-issued serial number before they will accept the BBRAW application.

[uglyduckling]

Yes, an 80% frame or lower must comply with the same laws that apply to a pistol or a rifle.
It needs to be VolReg'd, whether built out into a pistol/rifle or not. A bare lower would not be registerable as a pistol due to the roster, so it will forever be branded (in California) as a long gun.

Right, I understand this. How would one VolReg a bare lower? Would mailing in Form 4542A work, or would it have to be done online? And where it asks for barrel length, just leave blank, and make a note that it is a bare lower?

Thank you

[phdo]

I sent my BOF-1008 on 3/5/18. I just received an email with three serial numbers. I VolReg-ed a pistol and rifle on the same day but haven't received anything for those two firearms yet.

[Cokebottle]

Right, I understand this. How would one VolReg a bare lower? Would mailing in Form 4542A work, or would it have to be done online? And where it asks for barrel length, just leave blank, and make a note that it is a bare lower?

"Frame" or "Receiver"

[MosinVirus]

heard anything?

Still shows "In Progress"

[FUCA2AFTW]

Only if you intend to use it with a bullet button and register as a BBAW.

There is much confusion as there are two separate and distinct laws with different dates and requirements. There is some overlap.

You CAN VolReg an existing 80% lower.
You can not assemble it into an AR with a bullet button.

You meant to finish with "...an AW with a bullet button", right???