80% lowers MERGED THREADS - please ask in here, not a new thread

[CandG]

So if i register my 80% AR pistol build, how much scrutiny is placed on the RAW registration process. I have clean criminal history, but this is still somewhat scary for me. What are the basic requirements for RAW and do i have to pay that tax stamp, etc?

So pretty much every AR rifle in my collection has a BB and i have no intentions of going fixed mag, is it considered a red flag if i have to register 8 AR platforms with BBs? none are 80% except the one AR 80% pistol. god i have too many ARs lol...

Read the AW Registration Guide. It answers all of your questions and more.

No tax stamp, you're probably thinking of NFA weapons (Short-Barrel Rifles, Any Other Weapons, etc), which doesn't apply to your AR pistol unless you plan to put a forward pistol grip or a buttstock on it.

The only cost is the $15 per person, per application (you can put unlimited firearms on a single application and only pay the $15 once)

The guide will explain everything you need to know. Your 80% pistol will need a serial number engraved on it, which you'll need to obtain from DOJ (even if you've already applied your own serial number to it). I'd request that serial ASAP... Register the rifles while you wait for your pistol serial to arrive, otherwise you risk running out of time, the clock is ticking. Again, all this is explained in the guide.

[lone shooter]

Moving the conversation over here. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1439240

Sorry, so I've read this post http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1435490 and this post http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1364777.

The 2nd link deals more with registering your AW but I have a different situation.

I have 3 long guns that I created from 80% lowers. ALL are marked with all the required info per ATF markings requirements. The S/Ns are self-generated tho.

None of the 3 long guns posses any evil features. One is fixed magazine via Hogue Freedom Fighter kit and the other 2 are featureless.

So, in this configuration, what is the minimum action I have to take to stay out of jail?

TIA

PS, off the top if my head I don't recall when I created them but I can look this up.

[ar15barrels]

Moving the conversation over here. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1439240

Sorry, so I've read this post http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1435490 and this post http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1364777.

The 2nd link deals more with registering your AW but I have a different situation.

I have 3 long guns that I created from 80% lowers. ALL are marked with all the required info per ATF markings requirements. The S/Ns are self-generated tho.

None of the 3 long guns posses any evil features. One is fixed magazine via Hogue Freedom Fighter kit and the other 2 are featureless.

So, in this configuration, what is the minimum action I have to take to stay out of jail?

If you want to just use the serial numbers you already applied, use the volreg system before the end of June 2018.
Starting July 1, you will have to add a state-issued serial number to your self-built firearm.

[Strykeback]

Read the AW Registration Guide. It answers all of your questions and more.

No tax stamp, you're probably thinking of NFA weapons (Short-Barrel Rifles, Any Other Weapons, etc), which doesn't apply to your AR pistol unless you plan to put a forward pistol grip or a buttstock on it.

The only cost is the $15 per person, per application (you can put unlimited firearms on a single application and only pay the $15 once)

The guide will explain everything you need to know. Your 80% pistol will need a serial number engraved on it, which you'll need to obtain from DOJ (even if you've already applied your own serial number to it). I'd request that serial ASAP... Register the rifles while you wait for your pistol serial to arrive, otherwise you risk running out of time, the clock is ticking. Again, all this is explained in the guide.

You can't have 2 different numbers on a gun. If he got it on there before July 1st he doesnt have to apply for a number.

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[ar15barrels]

You can't have 2 different numbers on a gun.

There is a field on the FMBUS form for "other markings" where you put the other serial number if he is using an FMBUS number.

[CandG]

You can't have 2 different numbers on a gun. If he got it on there before July 1st he doesnt have to apply for a number.

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Not only CAN you, but you NEED to if you are registering it as an Assault Weapon. Regardless of when he engraved it.

It's a federal felony to obliterate any previously-engraved serial number, and DOJ requires that you add a serial number to it that they issue you. So there's simply no alternative - you must have two serials on your receiver in this scenario.

As AR15barrels mentioned above, you'll need to put your old serial in the "other number" box on your forms.

[lone shooter]

If you want to just use the serial numbers you already applied, use the volreg system before the end of June 2018.
Starting July 1, you will have to add a state-issued serial number to your self-built firearm.

Awesome. Thanks.

https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/forms/volreg.pdf

[Strykeback]

Not only CAN you, but you NEED to if you are registering it as an Assault Weapon. Regardless of when he engraved it.

It's a federal felony to obliterate any previously-engraved serial number, and DOJ requires that you add a serial number to it that they issue you. So there's simply no alternative - you must have two serials on your receiver in this scenario.

As AR15barrels mentioned above, you'll need to put your old serial in the "other number" box on your forms.

Wasn't aware we could register 80% pistols. Since the awb covered rifles but I apologize if I was wrong. This **** is always grtting more complicated. Going fixed mag with those so voluntary register as pistols should be OK or as I was told last month.

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[CandG]

Wasn't aware we could register 80% pistols. Since the awb covered rifles but I apologize if I was wrong. This **** is always grtting more complicated. Going fixed mag with those so voluntary register as pistols should be OK or as I was told last month.

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No prob, and yep vol-reg with your own serials is fine for fixed-mag firearms before july.

[lone shooter]

Moving the conversation over here. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1439240

Sorry, so I've read this post http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1435490 and this post http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1364777.

The 2nd link deals more with registering your AW but I have a different situation.

I have 3 long guns that I created from 80% lowers. ALL are marked with all the required info per ATF markings requirements. The S/Ns are self-generated tho.

None of the 3 long guns posses any evil features. One is fixed magazine via Hogue Freedom Fighter kit and the other 2 are featureless.

So, in this configuration, what is the minimum action I have to take to stay out of jail?

TIA

PS, off the top if my head I don't recall when I created them but I can look this up.

NVM

[lone shooter]

Wasn't aware we could register 80% pistols. Since the awb covered rifles but I apologize if I was wrong. This **** is always grtting more complicated. Going fixed mag with those so voluntary register as pistols should be OK or as I was told last month.

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No prob, and yep vol-reg with your own serials is fine for fixed-mag firearms before july.

And this applies to semi auto with fixed mag or single shot only?

[Browneye]

And this applies to semi auto with fixed mag or single shot only?

Yes. Fixed mag or featureless - either way they are not a RAW. Your self-generated serial number is sufficient for vol-reg. And yes, they are requiring all guns to be registered either by purchase or vol-reg. Don't ask me what they're doing about the millions of long guns sold but never registered prior to 2014. Evidently this is only for 80% AR lowers. I'm still confused about all those long guns prior. The factory made ones all have a serial number, but they are not registered to anyone in a 'central registry'.

I went the other way - bought 100% lowers that were DROS'd on purchase and rebuilt my AR's into featureless rifles. So they are in the central registry by purchase and not RAW's.

It was about the same cost as having my blank completed 80% lowers engraved and then registering them. For me was just easier and cleaner that messing with DOJ forms.

Many believe that RAW's will eventually be confiscated, so I decided not to go that route. Besides, the restrictions and transporting, and that was far too infringing. Which, wait, I thought that wasn't legal....

[Maltese Falcon]

Already got my DOJ S/Ns issued and engraved for the two 80% pistols.

Now need to get my *** in gear and start taking pics, two months to go.

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[Strykeback]

Already got my DOJ S/Ns issued and engraved for the two 80% pistols.

Now need to get my *** in gear and start taking pics, two months to go.

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I did 80s because that was the only affordable route to a AR pistol back in the day. The mess of serial numbers, pictures, and now having seen some of the break action reload speeds compared to bullet buttons has me going the no registration route. Half of mine are polymer80 gen2s and the others are aluminum. I gotta find a master engraver to work his magic over the next month.

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[CGmatt]

Can one volreg an 80% lower as a receiver only non-AW semi-auto rifle? I more stripped receivers than I have maglocks/parts kits/uppers and would rather not spend an entire day building and rebuilding stuff for pics if I don't have to.