List: Vendors Selling Standard Capacity Magazines (Updated 2020-08-18 1600)

[JoeGie]

grabagun ordered last night shipping confirmation about an hour ago.

brownells i’ll wait till their website is updated to use ebates/aj lol.

[ugimports]

To be clear, and I'm sure it will get sucked up in this fast thread, if someone won't send a refund or product, they are breaking the law. ABSOLUTELY file a charge back if they tell you they won't ship or refund. This isn't about "people helping". You can't let anyone get away with that kind of BS.

Why? If it's in their policy AND you agree to it what grounds do you have for a chargeback? I know legally you can get a chargeback done and CC will do it, but why order from them if you don't like their policy? Why not simply go elsewhere?

[MFW]

Brownells phone order went smooth! Don't forget promo code NET for 10% off and free shipping.

[walterSOBCHAK]

[ZombieLivesMatter]

If that's in their policies and you don't agree -- why are you purchasing from them? Purchase from somewhere else then. That's what I'm saying.

Wrong, it wasn't in any policies when most of us placed orders Friday and Saturday, it wasn't until late Saturday and Sunday when vendors started posting California disclaimers. But I'm not stressing it, I purchased from reputable vendors that I have dealt with in the past and I'm not worried about them.

[dearjohn013]

Just got off the phone with Grab A Gun. Typical order takes about 4-5 days to ship out. They are watching to see if DOJ request injunction. In that case every single order from California will be canceled and no refund will be issued. That means the buyer will forfeit the amount they paid to grab a gun.

[bigcalidave]

What if their policy said there is a 100% restocking fee on canceled orders. You agree to the terms and cancel your order (not mags in this scenario). Do you agree that you should be entitled to a full 100% refund via chargeback because they never shipped even though you agreed to a 100% restocking fee?

Or are you saying the terms you agree to are meaningless unless they benefit you?

As I said previously. If you don't like ANY vendors terms (please at least confirm you read them).. go elsewhere. Isn't that how capitalism is supposed to work? Not the consumers making up their own rules on what they think they are entitled to?

If enough people don't purchase from the vendors that are saying "no refunds purchase at your own risk" then a) they'll lose business or b) their policy will change.

Screwing them because you feel you are entitled to is what makes outside of CA dealers not like CA dealers..

That's why SG Ammo stopped shipping ammo...too many CA people tried to take advantage of them.

Please don't advocate terms that violate consumer protection laws. You can't charge a restocking fee on an item that never ships. You can't tell people that you just won't give them their money back because you don't want to. Chargebacks are perfectly valid. That's not capitalism, it's theft.

[avalon42]

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[scott36153]

If you don't like their policy order elsewhere is what I'm saying. If they have no stated policy that is different and I agree a chargeback might be warranted. However, if they are telling you up front ORDER AT YOUR OWN RISK then that is what you are doing. Otherwise, go order elsewhere.

They are accepting orders based on their order policies.

What online retailer has the policy listed saying "We will take your order but if we cant ship you dont get your money back"? If you had to acknowledge the risk by clicking a box during the order or something then i understand.

I bought 1 pmag from PSA mostly as an experiment to see what happens. PSA and some other online stores are proudly stating that they are taking orders from CA. I placed one pmag in my cart, paid for it, and the order went through. If I get an email saying that they will now not ship, after making a big deal over the weekend about taking orders then they better refund me. I would rather they sit back like Buds guns or something then make a big deal and boost their bottom line over the weekend only to say sorry, we keep your $$ now.

[ugimports]

I don't disagree they should deserve a crap storm.. but why don't you just purchase from a vendor that doesn't have the stupid policy rather then ignore their policy because you think that's your right?

I'm not advocating their policy is GOOD. In fact I think it sucks. However, I'm wondering why any of you would purchase from somewhere that HAS that stated policy.. If you're purchasing from them because they are the only ones with stock left then you need to assume the risk as stated. Otherwise, suck it up that you were too late or pay the "gouging" prices you might find elsewhere from a vendor that will refund you if things go sideways.

This may all be a moot point and everyone gets their stuff, but it says a lot about people that will screw vendors for their own personal benefit. It sounds like if you made a handshake agreement with someone for terms of a purchase you would have no incentive to honor that.

Explain to me how this mag situation is any different then ANY OTHER agreement you make in person (assuming like terms). Say someone sold you a gun AS IS via PPT with no refunds. You do the handshake. You get the gun and it doesn't work. You going to go and ask for your money back because it didn't work?

[walterSOBCHAK]

[ugimports]

What online retailer has the policy listed saying "We will take your order but if we cant ship you dont get your money back"? If you had to acknowledge the risk by clicking a box during the order or something then i understand.

I bought 1 pmag from PSA mostly as an experiment to see what happens. PSA and some other online stores are proudly stating that they are taking orders from CA. I placed one pmag in my cart, paid for it, and the order went through. If I get an email saying that they will now not ship, after making a big deal over the weekend about taking orders then they better refund me. I would rather they sit back like Buds guns or something then make a big deal and boost their bottom line over the weekend only to say sorry, we keep your $$ now.

I don't know. People are saying GrabAGun and perhaps Arms of America.. I don't know, but only those that have the stated policy/terms that you have to agree to are the ones I'm talking about. If they don't have those terms then by all means do a chargeback.

[asymmetricalwarfar3]

Just got off the phone with Grab A Gun. Typical order takes about 4-5 days to ship out. They are watching to see if DOJ request injunction. In that case every single order from California will be canceled and no refund will be issued. That means the buyer will forfeit the amount they paid to grab a gun.

WAT

[ugimports]

This I agree with. If they DIDN'T Have those terms then by all means do the chargeback. I was saying that if they DID...AND you agreed to them ...it would be effed up to chargeback.

[SoCalSig1911]

Just got off the phone with Grab A Gun. Typical order takes about 4-5 days to ship out. They are watching to see if DOJ request injunction. In that case every single order from California will be canceled and no refund will be issued. That means the buyer will forfeit the amount they paid to grab a gun.