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  • WolfMansDad
    Senior Member
    • May 2006
    • 838

    Long Beach officer shoots off-duty LAPD officer

    Open carry in an urban setting isn't always a good idea, no matter who you are.

    Long Beach officer shoots off-duty LAPD officer, official says
    Long Beach police were responding to a call of an armed man walking on Mira Mar Avenue. The LAPD officer was in critical but stable condition.
    By Joel Rubin and Molly Hennessy-Fiske, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers
    9:54 AM PDT, July 30, 2008
    An armed man who was shot by a Long Beach police officer this morning on Mira Mar Avenue was an off-duty officer with the Los Angeles Police Department, a high-ranking LAPD official with knowledge of the investigation confirmed.

    "It is a very unfortunate set of circumstances, it is one of ours," said the official, who requested anonymity, citing the ongoing investigation. "We are desperately trying to unravel what happened."

    The officer was in critical but stable condition at a hospital, the official said.

    Although few details were released this morning, Long Beach police said they responded to a call at 12:30 a.m. of a person with a gun walking on Mira Mar Avenue near Fourth Street.

    Officers located the 27-year-old man and realized he was armed, Long Beach Police Sgt. Dina Zapalski said. It was not clear why one of the officers began shooting, she said.

    Only one officer fired, wounding the man, Zapalski said. She did not know how many times the Long Beach officer fired or where the victim was wounded.
    Link: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,2477731.story
  • #2
    1911su16b870
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Dec 2006
    • 7654

    Wow, very sad...
    "Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022

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    • #3
      CavTrooper
      Calguns Addict
      • Jul 2007
      • 5944

      Sucks that someone got shot HOWEVER, I see this as a blessing that it was another officer and not an innocent "civilian" excersicing thier right to open carry. This may end up educating a large portion of the LEO community to the legalities of open carry. OR it could swing the other way and be just the thing needed to push legislation to outlaw open carry across the board.

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      • #4
        1911_sfca
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 1371

        Originally posted by WolfMansDad
        Open carry in an urban setting isn't always a good idea, no matter who you are.
        While I agree that open carry in an urban area can cause problems, what makes you think this officer was carrying openly? I didn't see that anywhere in the report. It just says he was armed with a gun.

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        • #5
          Fjold
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Oct 2005
          • 22750

          12:30 AM walking on Mira Mar Avenue? I'm willing to bet that we will find that alcohol was involved.
          Frank

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          • #6
            Gator Monroe
            Banned
            • Oct 2007
            • 6422

            Originally posted by Fjold
            12:30 AM walking on Mira Mar Avenue? I'm willing to bet that we will find that alcohol was involved.
            +1 ?
            Last edited by Gator Monroe; 07-30-2008, 11:30 AM.

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            • #7
              Budd
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 543

              My SIL is LBPD - wonder if I can get the scoop.

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              • #8
                WolfMansDad
                Senior Member
                • May 2006
                • 838

                Originally posted by 1911_sfca
                While I agree that open carry in an urban area can cause problems, what makes you think this officer was carrying openly? I didn't see that anywhere in the report. It just says he was armed with a gun.
                The article doesn't say whether he was open-carrying or carrying concealed and got "made," and it's entirely possible that the dispatcher didn't either. All we know right now is that LB officers responded to a "man with a gun" call, and this sad outcome resulted.

                There has been an unloaded-open-carry movement in California in the last few months. If you choose to do it, be aware that it can be very dangerous in the present culture. (It is also of dubious value politically right now, but that is another discussion.)

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                • #9
                  Californio
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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                  • Dec 2006
                  • 4169

                  Originally posted by WolfMansDad
                  The article doesn't say whether he was open-carrying or carrying concealed and got "made," and it's entirely possible that the dispatcher didn't either. All we know right now is that LB officers responded to a "man with a gun" call, and this sad outcome resulted.

                  There has been an unloaded-open-carry movement in California in the last few months. If you choose to do it, be aware that it can be very dangerous in the present culture. (It is also of dubious value politically right now, but that is another discussion.)
                  The culture has to change back to the way it was 40 years ago. Phoenix is a metropolitan area of about 5 million people and the public or officers don't go nuts when they see a firearm.

                  I feel for both officers but its the Suits that are responsible.
                  "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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                  • #10
                    CCWFacts
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2007
                    • 6168

                    Originally posted by Fjold
                    12:30 AM walking on Mira Mar Avenue? I'm willing to bet that we will find that alcohol was involved.
                    I would bet on that! Agencies should adopt zero-tolerance policies about drinking and carrying.
                    "Weakness is provocative."
                    Senator Tom Cotton, president in 2024

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                    • #11
                      1911su16b870
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 7654

                      Originally posted by WolfMansDad
                      ...There has been an unloaded-open-carry movement in California in the last few months. If you choose to do it, be aware that it can be very dangerous in the present culture. (It is also of dubious value politically right now, but that is another discussion.)
                      +1 very well said WolfMansDad
                      "Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022

                      NRA Endowment Life Member, CRPA Life Member
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                      I instruct it if you shoot it.

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                      • #12
                        Gator Monroe
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 6422

                        Originally posted by Californio
                        The culture has to change back to the way it was 40 years ago. Phoenix is a metropolitan area of about 5 million people and the public or officers don't go nuts when they see a firearm.

                        I feel for both officers but its the Suits that are responsible.
                        The Suits & Leo higher ups are 70% anti-2A and this has permeaited and trickled down to the lower ranks more and more as America has drifted Left and social progresives have interfaced with Leo Higher ups ...

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                        • #13
                          toolman9000
                          Senioritis
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 859

                          The suspect has been identified as Jason Geggie, a 26-year-old Long Beach resident, currently employed as a police officer for the City of Los Angeles. When the investigation revealed that Geggie was a Los Angeles Police Officer, the Los Angeles Police Department was notified. The Long Beach Police Department will be conducting the criminal investigation, and the LAPD will be conducting their own independent administrative investigation.

                          Geggie has been booked for 417(c) PC - Exhibiting a firearm in the presence of a police officer in a threatening manner and 417(a)(2) PC - Exhibiting a firearm at any person in a threatening manner.

                          Long Beach CA local news and information service



                          So far it looks like a clean shoot to me...
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                          • #14
                            Scotty
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 1524

                            Good thing most cops are pretty bad shots or else he would be dead.

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                            • #15
                              Californio
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                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 4169

                              Brandishing - oops - he stepped in it.

                              Long Beach CA local news and information service
                              "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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