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  • #31
    SVenigma
    Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 179

    Originally posted by x90
    Does this gun have microstamping? How did it get added to the roster if it does not?
    Good point. Maybe it had already been submitted for roster testing before the microstamping requirement was enacted?

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    • #32
      Yugo
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2011
      • 8357

      I would buy one as a collector but damn this is dumb.
      sigpic

      Originally posted by WAMO556
      Voting for Donald Trump is the protest vote against: Keynesian economics, Neocon wars, exporting jobs, open borders, Washington criminal cartel, too big to fail banks and too big to jail pols and banksters.

      Cutting off foreign aid to EVERY country and dismantling the police/surveillance state!

      Umm yeah!!!!!

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      • #33
        morfeeis
        Calguns Addict
        • Apr 2010
        • 7605

        That would give an all new meaning to blue screen of death.
        ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
        Originally posted by Ayn Rand
        You seek escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness. You exist for the sake of avoiding punishment. We exist for the sake of earning rewards. Threats will not make us function; fear is not our incentive. It is not death we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live.

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        • #34
          SonofWWIIDI
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Nov 2011
          • 21583

          Click...click...click...crap, you have to wait to rob me, I forgot to charge my gun, and I need to look up the code again to make it work!

          Sorry, not sorry.
          🎺

          Dear autocorrect, I'm really getting tired of your shirt!

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          • #35
            rootuser
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 3018

            Originally posted by Kasspur
            Biometrics? What happens on a cold day and you're wearing gloves? What happens if you are shot first and can't shoot back because you have your own blood on your hands and the scanner cant read your print? What happens if you accidentally drop your weapon and when you pick it up to defend yourself the glass is scratched or damaged? scuff up or damage your fingerprint while in a defensive fight? We use biometric scanners at my job...they last about 3 years and then need to be replaced... This is not a defensive weapon...it's a range toy.
            Biometrics aren't the problem. The gun in the article is certainly a very horrible attempt at using biometrics, but this is in its infancy.

            Drawing on your experience, I would agree with you, but biometrics are not limited in any way to what you are talking about. There are many types of implementations.

            Not sure what scanners you are using but they certainly would not do the job for a weapon, I agree with you there. But I'm thinking beyond fingerprint scanners and what this means for a smarter weapon.

            We'd all still be using cap and ball if people didn't take a chance and try to invent something new. I am sure the first experiment with smokeless powder for example was not a clear success

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            • #36
              soutthpaw
              Member
              • Nov 2013
              • 192

              Originally posted by broofy
              While it may be possible to implement this, and it might actually be cool as an option some time down the road when it's fully "star wars" and reliable...the idea of mandating this for "safety" is re-donkulous.
              And when it is, I will totally trade my gun for a light saber ;-)

              Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

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              • #37
                soutthpaw
                Member
                • Nov 2013
                • 192

                Originally posted by EM2
                wanna bet?


                Here Ya go buddy. Who says you can't fix stupid?


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                • #38
                  jeremiah12
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 2065

                  If it is something that I want to work reliably when I need it to absolutely work now, I want the least amount of electronics in it. That is why I still drive my first car I have ever owned, a 1965 mustang. I do not have to worry about the CARB nazi's and no electronics. I had a car that the electronic ignition module went out on it while I was driving on the freeway in heavy traffic and it shut down the entire engine. I was rear ended. My reliable 302 V8 (yes I replaced the original 289) I can fix or get it to get me home until I can repair it properly. It has never stranded me.

                  I do not want electronics in my guns.

                  I am a teacher and one of the few that can still teach when the power goes out. I open the curtains, pull out a few battery powered lights, and use the chalkboard. I keep all my grades on my own computer (yes I do use technology) as well as enter them into the school's system. I print out a hard copy. Every once in a while the district's system crashes and even they cannot restore the grades as promised from their high tech backups. So a semester's worth of grades are gone. I submit my hard copy and the techs have to hand input my grades because they made a written promise they would never loose grades. The other 90% of the teacher are out of luck. They do not even keep paper copies of grades before entering them because technology is so great. They put all of their work on the district's system and trust them to back it all up. I keep it all on my personal laptop and backup my own. I also make hard copies of the stuff I cannot live without and place copies of those at school and at home.

                  That is old school.
                  Anyone can look around and see the damage to the state and country inflicted by bad politicians.

                  A vote is clearly much more dangerous than a gun.

                  Why advocate restrictions on one right (voting) without comparable restrictions on another (self defense) (or, why not say 'Be a U.S. citizen' as the requirement for CCW)?

                  --Librarian

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                  • #39
                    numpty
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 2121

                    Originally posted by mattj9090
                    cool, now everyone will know you're a gun owner or carrying once they see your watch.

                    Might as well have the star of David on it.
                    Kinda like open carry I guess. It's a double edged sword. It's like people that put up stickers on their houses that say "Protected by Smith and Wesson" or whatever. May deter some from chancing their lives with a break in, but it's an invitation to others 'cause they know you've got something good.
                    The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.
                    John 10:10


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                    • #40
                      IVC
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 17594

                      Originally posted by morfeeis
                      That would give an all new meaning to blue screen of death.
                      Now that's funny right there...
                      sigpicNRA Benefactor Member

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                      • #41
                        numpty
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 2121

                        Originally posted by jeremiah12
                        ...That is old school.
                        I definitely like your thinking and embrace many of these same precautions. I do find it ironic though that you just typed that on this here internet.
                        The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.
                        John 10:10


                        iTrader: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1888351

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                        • #42
                          IVC
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 17594

                          Originally posted by Yugo
                          I would buy one as a collector but damn this is dumb.
                          I was thinking the same thing, but then I thought better of it and the conclusion is:

                          DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM THIS COMPANY!

                          The primary reason this technology exists and is pushed as a product is to create a monopoly on firearms market in the areas that are highly restrictive and where the government will *force* people to buy it.

                          This is NOT a free market offering where we can buy it based on novelty without any consequences for other guns. Quite the opposite. Buying such a gun would be a direct attack on the availability of other guns and we should make sure that this company goes out of business as soon as possible.
                          sigpicNRA Benefactor Member

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                          • #43
                            IVC
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 17594

                            Originally posted by dobek
                            Wait for the first hack - most likely shared for all gang bangers on YouTube
                            No chance. Why would gang bangers hack something they don't want, cannot purchase at the store, doesn't work with their fingerprints (and doesn't work with the owner either, but that's besides the point) and is of no use to them?
                            sigpicNRA Benefactor Member

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                            • #44
                              tvfreakarms
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 2362

                              For me its cool as a novelty item and i will not use it for self defense. never!
                              i really hate it that when this becomes accepted, they will only sell this type of gun only.
                              that is b.s big time.
                              I know someone said we should welcome this tech but force us only to buy this only type of gun at that price is crazy.
                              electronics r known to fail.
                              novelty bueno, betting ur life muey mucho no bueno
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                              #ifyourhandtouchesmetalI swearbymyprettyfloralbonnetIwillendyou

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                              • #45
                                tvfreakarms
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 2362

                                @ivc
                                ur right
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                                #ifyourhandtouchesmetalI swearbymyprettyfloralbonnetIwillendyou

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