Might it have something to do with his war experiences. I know several combat vets that gave up hunting and guns when they got home. That didn't mean they were against it, just chose to break with it for awhile.
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I dont think Baracks middle name has anything to do with him not to be trusted, or i wouldnt take any more cab rides. I think his words and actions do that just fine, the mans a lefty radical loony tune.Comment
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Exactly which aspect of running what was once the most powerful nation in the world will that allow him to do better than the other candidates?
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." -AristotleComment
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Its called CHARACTER. Its a quality MOST people nowadays LACK. And its the most important quality a LEADER NEEDS. Hes demonstrated it in SPADES.
Might also have to do with the fact he cant lift his arms high enough to aim a gun at anything above his navel. Guys, his shoulders and neck are so injured he hasn't even been able to COMB HIS OWN HAIR since Vietnam.... You really think shooting is high on the list?Last edited by RomanDad; 05-31-2008, 12:03 AM.Life is too short to drive a Ferrari...
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Like him, or not. He's the only one of the three that has worked with the other side to get things accomplished. Moderates move the ball forward. McCain is attractive to many, especially the elderly who feel comfortable in (the idea of) him being President. Even Reagan and Clinton realized one must compromise to get things done.
Hillery or Obama spells another 4 years of gridlock.
BTW - I believe there was another candidate (Paul) who also is a strong 2nd supporter but has no firearms (Just a thought).Last edited by AngelDecoys; 05-31-2008, 12:34 AM.Manteca Sportsmen General website.
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Some of you guys need to shut up and research it yourselves: http://ontheissues.org/John_McCain.htm#Gun_Control
He looks to be fairly pro-2A, but does leave himself some wiggle room for the anti-2A. For example, he voted against the AWB and the Brady Bill but said he'd be open to an AWB. Another time he said he wanted the "gun show loophole" closed but voted against background checks at gun shows.Comment
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If he were a Democrat that would make him indecisive, unwilling to take a stance on a hot button issue, but he's not so my guess is that it makes him open minded. Am I right?
Some of you guys need to shut up and research it yourselves: http://ontheissues.org/John_McCain.htm#Gun_Control
He looks to be fairly pro-2A, but does leave himself some wiggle room for the anti-2A. For example, he voted against the AWB and the Brady Bill but said he'd be open to an AWB. Another time he said he wanted the "gun show loophole" closed but voted against background checks at gun shows."It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." -AristotleComment
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If he's consistently voting pro-2A, that pretty much makes him GTG as far as that particular issue. So he's taking a moderate stance in interviews? Fine by me.
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Yes, do the research. Maybe this will help.
Conservative or Gun-Grabber? GOA’s Rating For John McCain 2000 C – – 2002 C – – 2004 F – – 2006 F – – John McCain’s Liberal Voting Record John McCain Is A Liberal Gun Grabber John McCain Funded By Soros Since 2001 John McCain’s Top 10 Class-Warfare Arguments Against Tax Cuts The Geraldo Rivera Republican Democrats Say McCain … Read more
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McCain GTG? I don't think so.
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McCain is more worried about maintaining our empire and our presence in Iraq than individual rights. I am sure if he had to he would sign our rights away as long as he can continue his 100 year war with the middle east. This is assuming that he supports the 2nd(he may only have voted progun to keep his party and NRA quiet). If he does not then he would not need such a strong reason to sign the new AWB in effect. Even the NRA is not so eager to back him for some of the resent laws he tried to pass."Legitimate use of violence can only be that which is required in self-defense." Ron Paul
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Originally posted by forumguyThe same way they enforce all the rest of the BS laws. Only criminals are exempt, while the honest obey.Originally posted by bwieseSometimes I think the function of Calguns is half to refute bad info from gunshops and half to refute bad info from DOJ.Comment
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He is like any other politiciation, do what needs to be done to get the vote. None of the three canidates are a good choice, but it is up to the indivigual to determine which canidate expresses your outlook and intrest the best.
I personally do not think a lot of McCains plans on keeping our troops in Irac, but that is a far less evil in my mind than Obamas' outlook on Guns and the naive veiw on forien politic.
The US needs to invest in itself internally again and limit the forign aid it makes availeable so that we can pay off our deficet and not be owned by forign nations.BT 8541
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The fact that he doesn't own a gun doesn't really bother me. There are a lot of cops and military people who don't own, or particulary care for guns save the fact that carrying one is required by their work.
There are a lot of reasons to be displeased with McCain. But on the gun issue, given the choce between:
1. McCain, who believes that people shouldn't be allowed to buy a gun without a background check.
2. Obama, who has said straight up that he wants to ban all semi-autos. And even ban guns in general depending on where you live.
3. Hillary, whose husband actually did ban certain firearms.
The choice seems pretty clear.Last edited by dustoff31; 05-31-2008, 8:59 AM."Did I say "republic?" By God, yes, I said "republic!" Long live the glorious republic of the United States of America. Damn democracy. It is a fraudulent term used, often by ignorant persons but no less often by intellectual fakers, to describe an infamous mixture of socialism, miscegenation, graft, confiscation of property and denial of personal rights to individuals whose virtuous principles make them offensive." - Westbrook PeglerComment
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That is precisely the problem. What he works with the other side on IS moving the ball forward, but forward to what we don't want. He gets more done in the way of government interventionism, not prying their hands off. Moving forward is only good if it's in the right direction. None of what the other side will agree to and routinely enlists McCAin to get done for them is working towards less regulation, repealing the utter disaster of the King FDR years and Johnson's bungling, getting us back on the gold standard, breaking up the ostensible two party but in practice one party monopoly, and restoring the balance of power in favor of the individual over the monster of runaway government that makes up the rules as it goes along. In that effor McCain has been absolutely nothing of a hero and instead a worthless parasite just as the rest of them. Sorry I don't bow to your sacred cows, but nothing makes that right and nobody gets a pass because of something they did once, no matter how great. Doesn't matter if you're a scientist who cures the great plague of the century, Elvis come back to life, or the Pope's half brother, if you beat women, molest kids, or sodomize our country by moving us towards socialism, then you're a scumbag. Period.Like him, or not. He's the only one of the three that has worked with the other side to get things accomplished. Moderates move the ball forward. McCain is attractive to many, especially the elderly who feel comfortable in (the idea of) him being President. Even Reagan and Clinton realized one must compromise to get things done.
Hillery or Obama spells another 4 years of gridlock.
BTW - I believe there was another candidate (Paul) who also is a strong 2nd supporter but has no firearms (Just a thought)."You can't stop insane people from doing insane things with insane laws. That's insane!" -- Penn Jillette
Discretionary Issue is the new Separate but Equal.Originally posted by indiandaveIn Pennsylvania Your permit to carry concealed is called a License to carry fire arms. Other states call it a CCW. In New Jersey it's called a crime.Comment
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