DEFCON 1- A PD chased guy,tossed gun,retrieved ,ran it, gun I sold to DEALER in 2010/

[DisgruntledReaper]

Guys, have a 'DEFCON 1 situation', back in 2010 or 2011 I had a S/W 40VE pistol in 40sw that i sold TO A DEALER at the local show.......

TONIGHT i get a call saying that another city's PD was involved in a foot chase, guy tossed a handgun and.... yup you guessed it... it is the one i sold to the dealer..... I looked through ALL MY FRIKKIN PAPERS and found all the paperwork on it EXCEPT the damn sales receipt?!?! .... SO I told the local PD ,I showed them the papers I HAVE that confirms the pistol info, confirmed that it was not stolen or i was not the victim of a crime in which the douche got it......

I am just now faced with thinking what can the cops do to me..... I am still going thru papers ,trying to see if i misplaced the receipt from the dealer and told them the only other thing I can do is get a card from the dealer when the next show is on here... and give them the info..... I even said I will TAKE THEM TO THE DEALER AT THE SHOW....

No fuggin way am i going to allow myself to get **** on because the dealer did something..... which brings me to the following question...

EXACTLY what is the procedure that a FFL must do when they buy from a PP.. are they supposed to tell the DOJ in the state? Do they just put it in their book and that is that until it is sold to another person???

FIGURES this is only the 2nd firearm i have sold to a dealer, not a PPT or other where i have an actual buyer and the papers and background are run.... and now i have this mess....

I am tempted to tell the cops, 'give me 15, a baton and a taser and i will get the info out of him'

Can you guys help me out here? Should I contact the CGF ? Really would appreciate it!

[Dutch3]

How did the dealer pay you for the gun? If by check, there will be a bank record of the deposit.

[taperxz]

You either committed the crime or you didn't . If the cops thought it was you you would already have been arrested. What's the problem?

[BONECUTTER]

Not sure why you are so freaked out. They just did an ATF trace and it stopped at you.

If it still local it must of been re sold so have them see if that serial number is also registered to someone else. If you did not fill out a no longer in possession form its still in your name too.

If you transferred it legally you have nothing to worry about.

[eaglemike]

Most likely the dealer sold the gun to someone else, and then it was stolen. Happens all the time (unfortunately).

[bob bomb]

If it went out of state and was sold that way California's records would not show this. Either that or it was a shady dealer that just put you on the hook for there b.s.

[bob bomb]

You will be fine. Happens all the time

[kraqus]

Correct me if I am wrong, but they are asking him all these questions because HE IS THE LAST REGISTERED OWNER of the gun.....right?
Which means the gun was stolen or the dealer sold it under shady circumstances.





Benny

[bill_k_lopez]

[bob bomb]

Probably sold out of state in a place were handguns aren't registered

[DisgruntledReaper]

Not sure why you are so freaked out. They just did an ATF trace and it stopped at you.

If it still local it must of been re sold so have them see if that serial number is also registered to someone else. If you did not fill out a no longer in possession form its still in your name too.

If you transferred it legally you have nothing to worry about.

See this is what I am wondering about.. If you sell to a dealer and they are supposed to enter it in their book,then are they not supposed to notify the DOJ of a 'new acquisition'? Or does it ALWAYS fall upon US to notify the POS DOJ about stuff we sell..i.e. the NLIP form? After all the FFL is the 'new owner ' and if it was sold to someone else then should not my name be REMOVED as the owner? Isnt this what all this frikking DROS/background check crap supposed to do? If it is and it does not then something was not done right....

I am going to call them tomorrow(since they are closed today) and see about getting a copy of the 'list' of what they think I have ....and correct what needs correcting... shoot may as well pay me the 5/6 figure salary they get paid if I am to be my own 'handler'

[bob bomb]

That's why I never sell any of my stuff at gun shows.

[BONECUTTER]

No proof they think he is the last registered owner. If it was an ATF trace he would of been lead first . Could be they tried contacting the last registered owner and can't and just seeing if he has info.
Like someone said... If they though it was him they would already have him in cuffs. They
Might of been chasing a white guys who's 5,2 and OP is 7,2 and black. They probably don't think it's him or they would be at his door and not calling.

[bob bomb]

See this is what I am wondering about.. If you sell to a dealer and they are supposed to enter it in their book,then are they not supposed to notify the DOJ of a 'new acquisition'? Or does it ALWAYS fall upon US to notify the POS DOJ about stuff we sell..i.e. the NLIP form? After all the FFL is the 'new owner ' and if it was sold to someone else then should not my name be REMOVED as the owner? Isnt this what all this frikking DROS/background check crap supposed to do? If it is and it does not then something was not done right....

I am going to call them tomorrow(since they are closed today) and see about getting a copy of the 'list' of what they think I have ....and correct what needs correcting... shoot may as well pay me the 5/6 figure salary they get paid if I am to be my own 'handler'

You will be surprised. Every handgun you have purchased will be on there. Some will list it as being sold and the person it went to and some won't. Depends on who it is sold to and where they live. USA DOJ does not register handguns (yet) just gets info from ca DOJ etc.

[HKMadness]

+1 for If they thought it was you, you'd be in jail right now. Relax, keep your paperwork safe, and carry on. Were you paid cash or check?

Ps, I'm curious to see what one of your defcon 5 stories reads like