California Anti Gun?

[katokahn99]

I wonder how may California's are pro gun?
Been to several shops in the Bay Area most are running dry or completely out of semi hand guns and rifles. And let's not talk ammo.
Kind of nice to see this, even though I waited too long to pick up my Glock 23. But I can wait.

I wonder if the anti's are buying them out to limit your access and drive up the prices for you.

[Chatterbox]

Why not just man up and gift them associate memberships at $10 each?

If you feel so strongly about it, just do it, and call it a day. You can tell them to thank you later.

That's not the point - I bought NRA memberships for my entire family, and I would buy it for my friends if they expressed any interest in it. But what good does that do - they are not going to become supporters of RKBA just because I bought them NRA memberships. I might as well just donate money to NRA-ILA - it'd probably be more useful.

[Hogstir]

This is exactly right. In Connecticut a legislator recently wrote legislation to outlaw firearms that can shoot more than one round. Just look at incremental laws in California over the last two decades. Some of the extremists in office no doubt would tell citizens to "turn them all in."

When they ban more than 10 round magazines, it makes their next logical step to ban magazines, with more than 7 rounds. Take a look at the laws passed in New York. After someone suggests 7 rounds, then you have them legislating 5, as in Massachusetts. Today Americans need to take a stand and say we've had enough.

Next they will be after our "Bolt Action Assault Rifles".

[ElDub1950]

I think there's a new but fast growing group of Closet Pro-Gunners.

They've realized it's in their best interest to own a firearm for their, and their family's protection. But they afraid to acknowledge it to their ultra-lib friends.

They may stay in the closet but they'll vote with us against gun restrictions when the time comes.

[SilverTauron]

That's not the point - I bought NRA memberships for my entire family, and I would buy it for my friends if they expressed any interest in it. But what good does that do - they are not going to become supporters of RKBA just because I bought them NRA memberships. I might as well just donate money to NRA-ILA - it'd probably be more useful.

Exactly. To such people shooting is like booting up the Xbox for a game of Call of Duty-in other words, its just another hobby.


The math tells a harrowing story-the NRA's membership is a little more then 4 million against 90 million total gun owners. This is why the "divide and conquer" routine works so well , because most gun owners plain don't give a chit about their rights. As long as their particular firearm isn't banned, they'll not raise a finger in opposition.

Out of all the gun owners in America, less then 10% are members of a political action organization. The rest are so cavalier that they'll line up to sell or hand in their guns if Big Government demanded they do so. Just like owning a gun doesn't make you a gunfighter, it doesn't make you a political activist either.

[Regulus]

I wonder if the anti's are buying them out to limit your access and drive up the prices for you.

I'm going with the realization that those with guns will control those without if it goes south. It's not that they care about 2A, they want to protect themselves agaist others who have guns. Nothing more.

[Paper Boy]

I keep seeing friends who I never thought would be into guns posting pics on facebook of range days... Its a move in the right direction...

[Hopalong]

Trick question, really.

As mentioned, with a population approaching 40M

We've got the most of everything

Overall though, the answer to your question lies in the fact that

Dianne Feinstein gets re-elected with over 60% of the vote

Barbara Boxer, Jerry Brown, and a democratic super majority

Can you say, "I love the weather?"

[Jerry1949]

Took 3 n00bs shooting today...

THIS is one of the keys, people. Tactful, polite introduction to the good side of guns. I have converted several fence sitters and one outright hater of guns in the past 12 months. It's less than even a fraction but it's a positive step for our side. Get'em to the range and show them that the mysterious mechanism that goes "BANG" and is sometimes used for evil purposes is NOT a tool of the "conservative devils". (Sarcasm intended).

[Hoooper]

I shop at two gun stores exclusively. Both have made mention that they have seen a lot of people they are not familiar with in the last month or so. I visit the gun shop at least one every couple weeks. If not for ammo, for new future purchases, or accessories. They know their clientele. Its not like pro gun people are out buying up all the guns at double and sometimes triple the normal going rate. We already have our guns. People without them and scared are the ones willing to spend astronomical amounts of money on the firearms.
Those of us with guns already are just looking for ammo.

basically your premise is that anybody who doesnt own a gun or didnt before 12/14/12 is anti-gun? your LGS is not going to be familiar with occasional shooters, or be able to recognize people who support your right to own a gun but did not own one themselves before.

I guarantee you that the store I bought my first gun at didnt know that I was pro-gun before I made my first purchase there. I bet when I first walked into the store I DROS'd my first AR lower at that they didnt know I was pro-gun rights either. the premise just doesnt make sense. At a time when people think they may be losing their rights, those who were supportive of others but on the fence for themselves are much more likely to dive in then those who dont believe you should be allowed to own one. Not to mention you are suggesting that the same people who believe that the police and government will protect them from everything are all of a sudden banking on protecting themselves?

[tcd511]

There was a recent article that said nationwide gun sales are through the roof. Many of the people were first time buyers who never owned a gun and had been thinking about getting one. Which is good because despite what that anti's spew about people wanting more control or less 2a freedom, this just proved people were worried about losing their 2A rights and went out, bought and proved them wrong. More people believe in the 2nd and that has been shown.

[RugerFan777]

Next they will be after our "Bolt Action Assault Rifles".

You mean sniper rifle. I can just see it now. "No one needs a sniper rifle that can hit........insert anti gun senators name.... from 1/2 mile away, thats a assault sniper rifle and no one needs one"
"but I use that gun to hunt deer"
"to bad, for the greater good you can't have a sniper rifle"

this is what is coming

[MontClaire]

San Fran, LA, aka the big cities are all antigun. The more rural counties in east and north CA are all pro-gun.

You should see my neighbors faces when I load unload gear. I do this outside of garage on purpose. Local kids skipped our house trick or treating for the 3rd year now. My wife couldn't be happier.

[Tarn_Helm]

Half right.

The trouble is population centers. Many counties don't have the population of one small central city. Lassen county has 34,200 people most pro guns.

When you have San Francisco county that the left controls almost completely has 812,335 people. pretty hard to have our voice heard.

You are telling half the story.

Here is the other half: The Curley Effect.

Read it and seethe.

[jpigeon]

Too many people brain washed into voting for so called democrats