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  • #46
    miztic
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 73

    It's all coordinated, you can tell because the Giffords are parotting the same BS about high capacity magazines, and assault weapons bans, all of these media and 'activist groups' have the same message.
    If the Giffords had come up with their own ideas, I could respect them, but now they're just shills.
    Anyone can plainly see that banning high-cap magazines and assault rifles would have done nothing to prevent the exact incidents they are campaigning against.

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    • #47
      RRangel
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2005
      • 5164

      Originally posted by odysseus
      Just pandering. The new "mantra" of the progressive left that is bearing down with infringement is they publicly say they "believe" in the 2A and it is all about "safety", but then propose regulation against lawful owners and inalienable rights.

      I also think this is just another way for them to further one's career and setup another 501c to solicit funds and pay yourself a salary.
      I would concur on this. It's all a propaganda show. The top down structured gun control movement uses a complicit media to their benefit.

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      • #48
        ZombieTactics
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2010
        • 3691

        Originally posted by dg29
        The brady campaign and now the giffords campaign.
        I think part of what has happened is that the "Brady" name has lost significance. The emotional appeal of using that name is lost, because almost nobody remembers who Brady was or associates the name with the assassination attempt against President Reagan, or with Mr. Brady's injuries.

        Naming an organization after a famous victim is a favorite Alinsky-ite tactic, but attempts to co-opt the names of dead victims have often backfired. People seem to grasp that there is something ghoulish about taking someone's name (absent their permission) and using it for political fodder.

        Giffords' name is being used for new organization only because her case is still fresh enough in the public mind, and she can serve as an emotional, living reminder.

        The anti-gunner ideas don't hold up, so they need this constant emotional kind of appeal in order to maintain significance and visibility.

        In 20 years, their ideas will still be just as stupid, but they'll have found a new victim to exploit by that time.
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        • #49
          LMT4ME
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 2170

          I saw ther interview this morning on one of the Morning News channels and both admitted they owned Glocks and were not anti 2A. They are opposed to AR style rifles and high cap mags. I've seen other supposedly pro gun celebs like General McChrystal also state he sees no value in allowing citizens to own semi auto AR style rifles with high cap mags. I am very worried about how this looks to be playing out: Getting supposedly pro 2A high profile folks to come out for the upcoming gun control legislation instead of the uber liberal wackos (DiFi, Brady Bunch, etc.). This could end badly if we do not come up with a solid reason why citizens cannot own semi auto AR style rifles. Stating 2A insures our rights to own arms doesn't cut it. Remember one used to be able to order a full auto weapon mail order. It is very possible we loose this slice of the pie, also.

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          • #50
            Wrangler John
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 1799

            Gee, Jim Brady, shot in the head, and then Giffords shot in the head. Is being shot in the head a qualifier for leading an anti-gun campaign? Not that being shot by insane people is anything but a tragic occurrence, that isn't my point. Strangely, I didn't see Ronald Reagan going all gun control on us after he was shot at the same time as Brady. Real leaders, real staunch men, hard to find today and most of them don't play politics.

            Mrs. Wrangler read me the Giffords statement and it was primarily aimed at out fundraising the NRA so the political class could ignore the NRA's lobbying clout. They want to become stronger than the NRA on the political stage. Now it seems to me that if that were going to happen, it would already have happened. Could it be that the majority of the people don't want to listen to the anti-gun drivel? I do remember that Brady Campaign presser where nobody showed up. So, for my part I will just send NRA-ILA another donation and add some more to the others as well.

            P.S. I never have seen Mrs. Wrangler as upset as this anti-gun push has made her. If there were a Continental Army today, she would be in line to volunteer. If saintly Mrs. Wrangler is that angered, God help the politicians, they have stirred up something beyond imagining.

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            • #51
              Sunday
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2010
              • 5574

              Both the Giffords make their living off the tit of the government. They are doing what comes naturally for government employees and are falling in lockstep. There is no reason to respect either one or their opinion. The nonthinking TV watching zombies probably will ohh and ahh.
              California's politicians and unionized government employees are a crime gang that makes the Mexican drug cartels look like a Girl Scout Troop in comparison.

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              • #52
                SwissFluCase
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                • Jul 2008
                • 1322

                I think it is enough to say that I truly feel bad for what the Giffords had to endure, however this does not mean that their views on the 2nd Amendment are correct or acceptable.

                Regards,


                SwissFluCase
                "We don't discuss the governor's arsenal in detail" - Brown spokeswoman Elizabeth Ashford

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                • #53
                  SuperSet
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 9048

                  The only reason that she's mentioning outraising the NRA is that she thinks it's doable.
                  Members, we need them. If the NRA were a 50 million member organization, would we be having this discussion? Nope.

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