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  • #16
    odysseus
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Dec 2005
    • 10407

    Originally posted by Nor*Cal
    I caught a small piece of an interview with them yesterday and they were saying that they both believe in the 2A but want to figure out how to keep guns out of the wrong hands. That's about all I caught.
    Just pandering. The new "mantra" of the progressive left that is bearing down with infringement is they publicly say they "believe" in the 2A and it is all about "safety", but then propose regulation against lawful owners and inalienable rights.

    I also think this is just another way for them to further one's career and setup another 501c to solicit funds and pay yourself a salary.
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    • #17
      kaligaran
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 4800

      The 'good' take away from this is that the anti's lobby groups are very segmented.
      They do not have a unified front even on the federal level like we do with the NRA (join btw).

      Another reason to be active and donate to your national and state level organizations.
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      • #18
        glbtrottr
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 3547

        She was SHOT by an INDIVIDUAL who was using a gun. The focus should be on how to keep guns away from the crazies. Keeping guns away from crazies should be all about CRAZY control and not GUN control. The moment you make it about controlling inanimate objects and blaming these inanimate objects for crime is the moment logic has escaped you, shot, mentally challenged or not.

        Now? Let's be RETARDED and BAN ALL GUNS. This is precisely the Agenda of Dictator Obama's Team. They will accomplish this with lies, sympathy, coercion, the media, money, you name it...they will do it anyway they can.

        Giffords is just another TOOL in the process along with her husband.

        What most of you don't seem to get when you play into the sympathy game is that a lot of you continue to buy into the "court of public opinion" soundbyte as though to somehow think that the smart thing to do is to tread lightly on the topic, making all of you public relations and marketing experts with polls in hand or at the ready.

        Cute, and it may score you men sensitive points with your wives, but entirely on point with the agenda that this administration is pursuing.

        Alex Jones is a windbag, but there's something interesting about that position: OUTRAGE is where this Republic's citizens' should be.

        OUTRAGE.

        Blame recidivism. Blame Drug Crime. Blame Mental Health. Blame lack of appropriate attention for each and how to conquer it based on the soft bellies of Americans. But above all, quit continuing to penalize law abiding citizens and gun owners who would want to protect themselves exactly from all of these surging crazies by giving them the opportunity to defend themselves, instead of playing the victim pity card and moving to create more gun control.

        The Giffords know what's up. Her husband participated in 39 combat missions; he's no stranger to guns and bullets. That he wants to pander to this presidency is sad and disgusting. His choice, but disgusting nonetheless. Convalescencence from gunshot wounds is great and all, but taking on political activism to limit the constitutional rights of others while advancing a dictatorship is crap.
        On hold....

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        • #19
          sfpcservice
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 1879

          Originally posted by odysseus
          Just pandering. The new "mantra" of the progressive left that is bearing down with infringement is they publicly say they "believe" in the 2A and it is all about "safety", but then propose regulation against lawful owners and inalienable rights.

          I also think this is just another way for them to further one's career and setup another 501c to solicit funds and pay yourself a salary.
          Exactly... it is what I call "corporate non-speak". It's like when best buy or costco says they check receipts for "your protection" or when the aliens from Mars Attacks were saying "we are your friends" as they were vaporizing people.
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          • #20
            sreiter
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 1664

            F%$K Mark Kelly

            You're all hung up on "astronaut" Mark...How about captain Mark, who killed 100s of innocent children during Gulf War 1.
            Last edited by sreiter; 01-08-2013, 5:06 PM.
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            • #21
              artoaster
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2012
              • 1220

              Never mind the words they use, Nancy Pelosi wants to change the "gun contol" term to "gun violence prevention", but make no mistake about it the agenda is prohibition, gun bans, outright denial of civil rights, incremental confiscation, criminalization of gun ownership, etc.!

              Anybody joining against any type of presently lawful ownership or use of firearms right now and jumping on any bandwagon is out to destroy the 2A and criminalize law abiding good people who own guns.


              You generally run out of time before you run out of ammo.

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              • #22
                CessnaDriver
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Feb 2009
                • 10484

                That kook could have killed more people that day with an assault bludgeon (SUV)


                "Yeah, like... well, I just want to slap a hippie or two. Maybe even make them get jobs."

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                • #23
                  mag360
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 5198

                  I got in a car accident once, I should be appointed Czar of car safety. Damn idiots giffords and kelly the lot of em.
                  just happy to be here. I like talking about better ways to protect ourselves.

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                  • #24
                    MOA1
                    Junior Member
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 85

                    Originally posted by Nor*Cal
                    I caught a small piece of an interview with them yesterday and they were saying that they both believe in the 2A but want to figure out how to keep guns out of the wrong hands. That's about all I caught.
                    Admittedly I did not see the interview.

                    This is less about restricting guns and more about gun restricted zones. Gun laws that prevent law abiding citizens from carrying in public.

                    Would a crazy person open fire in a police station? Sure, it happens but the body count is almost always just the bad guy.

                    A wolf among sheep will feast, a wolf among wolves will starve or be eaten alive for his misdeeds.

                    The laws preventing good guys from the right of protection via firearm is the problem.

                    :Preaching to the choir:

                    The mental issue is not part of this discussion. Pull out a gun with bad intentions in a room full of people with guns and you're in deep ****.

                    Simple as that.

                    If you want to discuss mental health, fine, do so, but it has nothing to do with my gun rights.
                    "one test is worth a thousand opinions".

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                    • #25
                      kimber_ss
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 2219

                      Yeah that uncle Fester was a piece of work. The guy was seriously loony. If there were more good guys in the vicinity, it could have been a different outcome no?
                      Last edited by kimber_ss; 01-08-2013, 5:46 PM.
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                      • #26
                        dieselpower
                        Banned
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 11471

                        Gabby Giffords and Husband join in to make more laws..

                        Just saw a interview with Diana Sawyer, who is a lier and a con-artist herself. They are heading a group who will work to add "responsible gun laws" to the books.

                        Couple nice quotes...

                        1) Since Mrs Giffords was shot, 57,000 other people have been killed with firearms. Over 5000 injured

                        2) The country wants more gun laws

                        3) Congress has done nothing about gun violence.

                        4) They have a large number of gun owners and supporters working behind the scenes with congress to act.

                        5) The NRA is wrong, more guns isnt going to work and just because a good guy has a gun doesn't mean the bad guy will be stopped.

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                        • #27
                          dg29
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 1134

                          The brady campaign and now the giffords campaign.

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                          • #28
                            Baja Daze
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 925

                            Originally posted by dg29
                            The brady campaign and now the giffords campaign.
                            I believe the ulterior motive in recruiting the Giffords team is to eventually replace the Brady team as Sarah will be 71 next month and Jim is 72.

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                            • #29
                              mag360
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 5198

                              Yep got em shilling on the bandwagon. good call on having them take over. Grooming them for the coming gun ban talk.
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                              • #30
                                gunsandrockets
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 1537

                                Team Giffords declares war on the NRA

                                Originally posted by Baja Daze
                                I believe the ulterior motive in recruiting the Giffords team is to eventually replace the Brady team as Sarah will be 71 next month and Jim is 72.
                                You are exactly right.

                                I first noticed this development from the editorial the Giffords had printed in todays USA Today newspaper. I recommend everyone read it.



                                Basically, the Giffords are declaring war on the NRA in pursuit of the usual gun-control schemes. They accuse those who oppose gun-control of being part of an "ideological fringe".

                                I would ask the Giffords, if so-called "high capacity magazines" are so evil, why do you have them for your own Glock 9mm pistol? Will you publicly throw them away in exchange for a 10 round magazines? And if you want to ban magazines over 10 rounds, will you agree that David Gregory should be prosecuted for violating the very kind of law you are promoting?

                                I would ask the Giffords, if so-called "weapons of war" are so evil, will you campaign to have them removed from the hands of police?
                                Guns don't kill people, Democrats kill people

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