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  • #31
    dieselpower
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    • Jan 2009
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    They were opposing the view that a good guy with a gun stops a bad guy with a gun, they called the NRA position "wrong".

    The day Gabby was shot the "good guy" with the gun nearly shot the "hero" who didnt have a gun while he was tackling the bad guy.

    This is proof that good guys with guns are dangerous and doesn't stop gun violence.

    Please raise your hand if you are still in the ..."Oh don't worry this will all blow over" crowd...

    You really need to take a good look at what we are up against.

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    • #32
      IVC
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jul 2010
      • 17594

      A more important question than this bickering is why do people who end up being victims of gun violence turn to the gun control cause?

      Brady was shot and so was Giffords. McCarthy lost her husband to guns. Goddard from Virginia Tech ended up a spokesperson for Bradys.

      Is there anything we can do better to get these people to understand that when we talk guns we only talk self defense? Are they just bitter and want others to be defenseless too?
      Last edited by IVC; 01-08-2013, 10:20 PM.
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      • #33
        GW
        I need a LIFE!!
        • May 2004
        • 16078

        And the beat goes on
        This is easily the most concerted effort by anti-gunners ever
        They are piling on while they think they have the momentum.
        We have to be the ones who stand up for our rights
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        • #34
          8886
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          • Aug 2011
          • 1730

          I thought I saw someone on here that had a sig line that had her saying she was "a supporter of the 2nd Am. and will not seek to impose new gun laws."

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          • #35
            mag360
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            • Jun 2009
            • 5198

            Susanna Gretia Hupp survived the Lubys massacre and her parents died. She has been a great voice for concealed carry
            just happy to be here. I like talking about better ways to protect ourselves.

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            • #36
              The Wingnut
              CGN Contributor
              • Nov 2008
              • 2997

              I was wondering when she'd weigh in on the issue. I figured her silence thus far had indicated an unwillingness to address it.

              Make no mistake: This has the potential to become much larger and more effective than the Brady Campaign. Giffords has the sympathy angle and she is a more contemporary figure than James Brady. The current generation will rally around her whereas they may not have even been alive during the attempt on President Reagan's life. Giffords was the direct target while Brady was a bystander. Additionally, while John Hinckley Jr. used a .22 caliber revolver, Jared Loughner used a Glock 19 with evil 33-round magazines; a 'scary plastic gun meant to be spray-fired form the hip' as opposed to a peashooter revolver that looks similar to a starter pistol.

              Further working in Giffords' favor is the fact that prior to the incident, she was a centrist. She was solidly for gun rights, wanted the federal government to commit to border security, was a supporter of the military. With this turn toward an infringement on civil rights, she can be placed firmly in the statist camp, but many may not see it that way and view her as still being a centrist.

              He co-founder husband is an astronaut. Let that sink in.

              This organization has the potential to become a formidable foe of liberty.
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              A people whose only powers, liberties & remedies are those strictly defined by the State is not a free people at all.

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              • #37
                gunsandrockets
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 1537

                Note how the Giffords launched their anti-NRA campaign quite deliberately on the anniversary of the Tucson shooting where she was wounded. Apparently not only did they have their big editorial (with front page notification) in USA Today, they also blanketed various ABC television programs.

                I can't help but notice today was also the day that that smug *** Jon Stewart decided to do the full moron coverage of gun-control on his program The Daily Show, using his usual straw-man and little-truth/big-lie techniques he specializes in. Also important is the seeming coordination of messaging between Team Giffords and Jon Stewart, with Stewart labeling anyone who opposes "reasonable gun control" as dangerous lunatics.

                I think this is the heart of the new Obama gun-control campaign. This is the key, maybe even the real goal: not to impose new draconian gun-control, but to break the NRA by demonizing them and driving them from the field of political battle. Obama is playing the long-game, and in the long-run the activists opposing gun-control are one of the strongest political forces resisting Leviathan.
                Last edited by gunsandrockets; 01-08-2013, 11:40 PM.
                Guns don't kill people, Democrats kill people

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                • #38
                  IVC
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 17594

                  Originally posted by The Wingnut
                  This organization has the potential to become a formidable foe of liberty.
                  They need numbers, not just money. Bloomberg and Soros can provide the latter. The former is the problem.
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                  • #39
                    SuperSet
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 9048

                    Yep, all valid points that I agree with. A serious challenge on the battlefield of public opinion.

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                    • #40
                      GW
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • May 2004
                      • 16078

                      Originally posted by RCJeeper
                      Wow. A little over the top don't you think? An astronaut and a rep. who got shot in the head??? Really??? It's comment like these that make me wonder about team NRA.
                      And there's a non-sequitur A fellow makes a comment and you flame the NRA
                      Nice.

                      Giffords and Allen were chosen because of their optics. They are not idiots but part of a very well orchestrated move to limit our gun rights, which "Team NRA" is working very hard to preserve for everyone, even you.
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                      • #41
                        Baja Daze
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 925

                        Originally posted by The Wingnut
                        I was wondering when she'd weigh in on the issue. I figured her silence thus far had indicated an unwillingness to address it.
                        Actually I think 0bamalamadingdong was concealing "team Giffords" as one would conceal a pair of pocket aces and he was simply waiting for the right time to play his cards.

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                        • #42
                          dieselpower
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 11471

                          They are touring the talk shows... by Jan 22th DiFi will have all the support she needs.

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                          • #43
                            tcrpe
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                            • Jan 2006
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                            Giffords, Cuomo, Bloomberg.

                            Gosh, you'd think there was some sort of coordination here.

                            Where are the reverends Al and Jesse?
                            Last edited by tcrpe; 01-09-2013, 7:04 AM.
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                            • #44
                              Jaxpire
                              Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 139

                              Originally posted by tcrpe
                              Giffords, Cuomo, Bloomberg.

                              Gosh, you'd think there was some sort of coordination here.

                              Where are the reverends Al and Jesse?
                              Yep, I am sure I can say that this has nothing to do with the Giffords meeting with Bloomberg last week. What is his worth up too now? 26 billion? Few million wouldn't be missed at all to fund this new group.
                              Calguns Wiki large capacity magazines.

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                              • #45
                                parcours
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 1441

                                Originally posted by dieselpower
                                They are touring the talk shows... by Jan 22th DiFi will have all the support she needs.
                                All I can say is that, the Republicans in the House better grow a set real fast....

                                They need to kill this thing before it get any more traction.

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