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  • AyatollahGondola
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 1162

    Originally posted by Trenchfoot
    If as many people who claimed to be Libertarian, acted or voted that way, there might actually be a chance that the Libertarian party could make some changes in America
    They're not going to be making much difference in California anymore though

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    • AyatollahGondola
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 1162

      A lot of interesting commentary in this thread. I just rejoined the republican party after being a libertarian for like two decades. I've been attending meetings where a lot of this abortion, immigration, race hustling, and religion stuff is being discussed. There are women at these meetings, bit I'd say they're pro-life type. I don't think republicans hate women. We do have some problems relating to them, especially those republicans in the upper levels. I can't say how they feel about women with guns overall. I'll be exploring soon

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      • SilverTauron
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2012
        • 5699

        Originally posted by movie zombie
        worth repeating.
        Originally posted by AyatollahGondola
        A lot of interesting commentary in this thread. I just rejoined the republican party after being a libertarian for like two decades. I've been attending meetings where a lot of this abortion, immigration, race hustling, and religion stuff is being discussed. There are women at these meetings, bit I'd say they're pro-life type. I don't think republicans hate women. We do have some problems relating to them, especially those republicans in the upper levels. I can't say how they feel about women with guns overall. I'll be exploring soon
        Part of the trouble in explaining this dynamic is rooted in the fact that there is no male equivalent to the dilemma pro-gun women face when they head to the polls.

        A good analogy for the situation women face is us guys having a political candidate who supports striking down evey anti-gun law in the nation, but supports a law mandating all men be forced to have govt. funded vasectomies unless we pay a $500 per year "fertility tax".

        Meanwhile the other candidate is a card carrying Anti who wants guns banned but otherwise doesn't support forced sterilization of men.

        Ill bet given the choice between forced sterilization versus a nationwide gun ban, most guys will rather live without the AR15. While not QUITE the same issue, that nevertheless is the choice women face when they vote at the polls.
        We solve that problem by offering them a pro 2A candidate who doesn't want the govt. barging into their bedroom.

        Put another way, us gun owners don't want Uncle Sam telling us what to buy.
        Yet; more people male and female don't want Uncle to tell his women how she's going to plan her family. Since our voting system favors the majority, we are doomed to irrelevancy so long as we keep forcing nearly half our voters into choosing between the two issues .
        The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be.
        The more subsidies you have, the less self reliant people will be.
        -Lao-Tzu, Tau Te Ching. 479 BCE

        The 1911 may have been in wars for 100 years, but Masetro Bartolomeo Beretta was arming the world 400 years before John Browning was ever a wet dream.

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        • LuvLRBs
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2012
          • 562

          I agree. The candidates who get roped into talking about abortion, or if fetuses from rapes should live, are in a lose/lose situation. It's time to change the platform to say that the party favors life but respects choice. Then it becomes easier to ask for respect for gun right choices.

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          • Poms&Guns
            CGSSA Leader
            • Jan 2013
            • 157

            I’ve been reading through this thread and thank God I am already a 2A supporter because if I weren’t, I would not have made it past the first page. Well..to be honest, I gave up after page 2 and just scanned as some posts I ignored completely. Fellas, there ARE women out there who like having their own gun and defending our basic right of self-defense. There are also a lot of women that are coming over to our side. Yes, it might be slower than we would like, but like a few posters said, you might have to actually cater a little bit towards women. I am not saying to pamper and be condescending to the “little ladies”. Just treat them like you would like someone to treat your mom or your girlfriend/wife who is now wondering about the necessity of owning a gun.

            I am the CA Coordinator for Second Amendment Sisters. SAS is a women’s advocacy group dedicated to preserving the basic human right to self-defense. We believe in personal responsibility, education, and enforcement of laws against violent criminals.

            It is important for all women regardless of race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, income level, religion, or politics to stand up and educate each other about the dangers of people trying to take away or infringe upon our basic right of self-defense under the auspice of “common sense”. They want to take away our ability to protect ourselves and our families against violent criminals who will not obey the law.
            Women want to protect their family. And you are sadly mistaken if you think they only want to protect them on a one-on-one basis. A woman will defend her family against hundreds, if she has to, in order to protect her children. We are at a crossroads. More and more women are becoming more vocal about gun rights. People are questioning why women are suddenly arming themselves and learning to shoot. There are many reasons. But there is one glaring reason that is facing us as a nation today. When you think of a child, who comes to mind first as comforter…as protector? As moms….as sisters…as women…we are the ones capable of protecting our children whether it be as a gun owner ourselves, or as supporters of the 2nd Amendment and insisting on the repeal of the killing field known as the "gun free zone".

            Sorry for the soapbox, but people do need to realize that there are many women out there who support our cause, but might just not know how to go about doing it. And some just need to be educated on how the 2nd amendment is a “women’s right issue”. And for some women, they many need to hear it from another woman who is not afraid to stand up for what they believe in. I have just recently been told that when I start my Ladies’ Shoots up here in the Santa Cruz area, there are several women who want to be in that first class. And they are all moms of elementary, middle, and high school students. What is great about this is that the more women you involve, the more young girls you involve. I now have 5 cheer moms who want to take my class and each of them has 1-3 daughters who will come along with them at some point. This is progress I can be happy with.
            CA State Coordinator
            Second Amendment Sisters
            http://2asisters.org

            Lifetime NRA Member

            Gun Zone Radio Member

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            • AyatollahGondola
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 1162

              Originally posted by SilverTauron
              A good analogy for the situation women face is us guys having a political candidate who supports striking down evey anti-gun law in the nation, but supports a law mandating all men be forced to have govt. funded vasectomies unless we pay a $500 per year "fertility tax"..
              Every man with children is paying a fertility tax

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              • mag360
                Calguns Addict
                • Jun 2009
                • 5198

                Dunno whats wrong with ur wiminz mine carries her glock 26 everywhere. Git ur women in line.

                ;-)
                just happy to be here. I like talking about better ways to protect ourselves.

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