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  • Cato
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2006
    • 5659

    Originally posted by hawk1
    Could it be they only had a search warrant written for the AK's?
    AK's LOOK more EVIL. They have a better chance in court to be deemed illegal - at least that's their rational (I think?)

    AR's are next. Then your Daisy rifles!!

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    • ptoguy2002
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2006
      • 3863

      Originally posted by USN CHIEF
      Does anyone have a good phone nomber for that Sheriff's office? We should bombard them with calls or emails regarding their illegal seizure.. We should even email them the Flow chart and try to educate them... Just a suggestion.
      I'm all for that.
      Non-emergency line maybe?
      Start out explaining the problem with generic series bans, explain Harrot decision, ask tthen why the place was raided, and after all that, ask for a supervisor, and explain it all over again.
      Start on Monday morning at 9:00 AM (at least let them get their coffee first).
      Whos in?
      WTB: SWISS & German police trade in pistols
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      • hawk1
        In Memoriam
        • Dec 2005
        • 7555

        Originally posted by USN CHIEF
        Does anyone have a good phone nomber for that Sheriff's office? We should bombard them with calls or emails regarding their illegal seizure.. We should even email them the Flow chart and try to educate them... Just a suggestion.
        Most likely that wouldn't do any good. Since the seizure has been done. The place to put any effort into now would be with the Riverside County District Attorney's Office. They have the ball and it will their decision as to if they prosecute.
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        • hoozaru
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 1712

          Riverside County Sheriff's Department

          email: VScarpin@riversidesheriff.org

          Administration
          Sheriff Stanley Sniff
          4095 Lemon Street
          Riverside, CA 92501
          (951) 955-2400

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          • tenpercentfirearms
            Vendor/Retailer
            • Apr 2005
            • 13007

            Originally posted by Tmac
            Not sure if this was posted yet, not much new information.

            This is from the departments web site, I don't see anything about DOJ's involvement in the bust.


            RIVERSIDE COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
            Jurupa Valley Station
            PRESS RELEASE
            Date/Time Written: March 7, 2008 / 1700 hours
            Type of Incident: Search Warrant
            Date/Time of Incident: March 7, 2008 1106 hours
            Location of Incident: Glen Avon
            Reporting Officer: Sgt. Steve Brown #1310
            File Number: E08067030
            On March 7, 2008, at 1106 hours, deputies from the Riverside County Sheriff's Department Jurupa Valley Station Community Action Team, in conjunction with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms executed a weapons violation search warrant at Bright Spot Pawn, located in the 9000 block of Mission Blvd., Glen Avon.

            Deputies had received information that sales of illegal AK-47 assault weapons were occurring from the location. Ten Ak-47 style assault weapons were seized that were in violation of California law. Investigation revealed that the rifles had been imported from out of state. No arrests were made. The case will be forwarded to the Riverside County District Attorney's Office for prosecution of the owner for 10 counts of 12280 (b) PC, Possession of an Assault Weapon, and 10 counts of 12280 (a) (1) PC, Importing and or Offering Assault Weapons for Sale. The ATF has an open case, and their investigation is continuing.
            Man, I would love to be a case like this. I would so use my 12280(o) exemption as a defense. The bad news for me is Taft PD would never try to pull this stunt and even then the Kern County DA would drop the case before I even had a chance.

            I can only see this as being another good example of where the CA DOJ has failed to execute their duties and law abiding citizens continue to suffer for it.

            Chris we know you will read this, we are ready to step up and defend you on this.

            No one ask anymore questions about where to donate. Gene said he is working on it so when he has the info it will be posted and we will organize a Blackwater Ops style defense.

            All we need is some assurances everything was indeed was lawfully configured and this thing will happen. If so this will be one of those cases where we all need to step up to the plate and defend ourselves. Yes this is a defense of us all, not just Brightspot Pawn.
            www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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            • savageevo
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2006
              • 1220

              Im definatly in when there defense fund is open. We have to wait and see this monday what will happen. I am sure they have contacted a lawyer but we do not know who yet. when we find out WE as a Community MUST get involved. One attack on one FFL is a attack on all ffls. I know a lot of calgunners have gone to bright spot to get there OLL and if we let them get over us, who knows who they will target next (US, who have bought OLL from Bright spot). We cannot let them do that. When this is all over, at least we know that we can add riverside County and hopefully surrounding counties will be well educated about OLL. To all of you calgunners, spread the word to fellow calgunners about this developing incident so when the time comes to unite we will be there.

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              • aznxtroplx
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2007
                • 989

                The media? You re out of your mind. I see the headline already "Brave deputies and federal agents seize illegal assault weapons from rogue pawnshop owner, Riverside Sheriff commended. F the media. Look what they did with Sharkguys cuddly pink CA AR.

                Originally posted by daves100
                we need to win this one then have a blow out sale and get 1000 more AK's in CA..
                to bad we can not get the News to cover this and let everyone know about the legal OLL and AK's

                i'm in to kick in some cash
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                Originally posted by junior40er
                LOL, fist me bro.
                Originally posted by NaSir510
                so I massage him and ask if its is the real thing
                You'll get a faster response if you massage him. Ask me how I know.

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                • CSACANNONEER
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 44092

                  Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
                  Man, I would love to be a case like this. I would so use my 12280(o) exemption as a defense. The bad news for me is Taft PD would never try to pull this stunt and even then the Kern County DA would drop the case before I even had a chance.

                  I can only see this as being another good example of where the CA DOJ has failed to execute their duties and law abiding citizens continue to suffer for it.

                  Chris we know you will read this, we are ready to step up and defend you on this.

                  No one ask anymore questions about where to donate. Gene said he is working on it so when he has the info it will be posted and we will organize a Blackwater Ops style defense.

                  All we need is some assurances everything was indeed was lawfully configured and this thing will happen. If so this will be one of those cases where we all need to step up to the plate and defend ourselves. Yes this is a defense of us all, not just Brightspot Pawn.
                  It wouldn't hurt to call Taft PD and ask them if they could do you a favor.
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                  • aznxtroplx
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 989

                    Deputies had received information that sales of illegal AK-47 assault weapons were occurring from the location. Ten Ak-47 style assault weapons were seized that were in violation of California law. Investigation revealed that the rifles had been imported from out of state. No arrests were made. The case will be forwarded to the Riverside County District Attorney's Office for prosecution of the owner for 10 counts of 12280 (b) PC, Possession of an Assault Weapon, and 10 counts of 12280 (a) (1) PC, Importing and or Offering Assault Weapons for Sale. The ATF has an open case, and their investigation is continuing.
                    So looks to me like some A hole walked into BSP and tipped off the sheriffs about what they saw happen, a legal gun transaction over the counter.

                    BSP is one of the few honest, do right FFL's left in Socal and I support their arduous battle.
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                    Originally posted by junior40er
                    LOL, fist me bro.
                    Originally posted by NaSir510
                    so I massage him and ask if its is the real thing
                    You'll get a faster response if you massage him. Ask me how I know.

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                    • HUTCH 7.62
                      In Memoriam
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 11298

                      Originally posted by Gator Monroe
                      Last year Mayor Ken Murray got in a heap of Trouble with Un Registered Hand guns he bought from his later indighted Brother In law (So Pat Jones is very leary and knows full well about the pitfalls of FFL ownership and Being Mayor under a Microscope ...
                      Shafta County; come on vacation, leave on probation, back on violation.
                      Some say that he once mooned two prostitutes just for a round of drinks, but wasn't surprised by the reply......They call him, the Hutch
                      Some say that he rode a dirtbike 7k miles across the country and that he once applied Bengay to his own testicles for a mere $50............They call him, the Hutch -Top Gear

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                      • Paratus et Vigilans
                        In Memoriam
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 1510

                        Originally posted by Tmac
                        Not sure if this was posted yet, not much new information.

                        This is from the departments web site, I don't see anything about DOJ's involvement in the bust.


                        RIVERSIDE COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
                        Jurupa Valley Station
                        PRESS RELEASE
                        Date/Time Written: March 7, 2008 / 1700 hours
                        Type of Incident: Search Warrant
                        Date/Time of Incident: March 7, 2008 1106 hours
                        Location of Incident: Glen Avon
                        Reporting Officer: Sgt. Steve Brown #1310
                        File Number: E08067030
                        On March 7, 2008, at 1106 hours, deputies from the Riverside County Sheriff's Department Jurupa Valley Station Community Action Team, in conjunction with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms executed a weapons violation search warrant at Bright Spot Pawn, located in the 9000 block of Mission Blvd., Glen Avon.

                        Deputies had received information that sales of illegal AK-47 assault weapons were occurring from the location. Ten Ak-47 style assault weapons were seized that were in violation of California law. Investigation revealed that the rifles had been imported from out of state. No arrests were made. The case will be forwarded to the Riverside County District Attorney's Office for prosecution of the owner for 10 counts of 12280 (b) PC, Possession of an Assault Weapon, and 10 counts of 12280 (a) (1) PC, Importing and or Offering Assault Weapons for Sale. The ATF has an open case, and their investigation is continuing.
                        Major mistake on the part of the RSO posting this on the web.

                        Assuming this is an incorrect statement, since BSP knows and follows the law, the RSO has in all likelihood just engaged in a tortious act of business defamation. Could easily have said ". . . suspected to be in violation of California law . . . " but chose instead to make a direct, positive statement. I don't think this is a privileged statement, either, nor do I think that the County of Riverside will have soverign immunity for this statement.

                        BSP, get together with your counsel and discuss your options for a civil lawsuit for business defamation. Falsely accusing a business of violating the law is defamatory per se.

                        As for why BATFE was involved, it's in the assertion that these were "AK-47 assault weapons," i.e., FA and subject to the NFA, thus a Federal issue.
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                        • aplinker
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 16762

                          +1

                          THIS is what I was getting ready to post. It's slander/defamation. They don't use the word "allegedly."

                          My guess on the ATF isn't yours: I'm betting ATF was there for their "expert advice" on how to go through the books of FFLs.

                          Originally posted by Paratus et Vigilans
                          Major mistake on the part of the RSO posting this on the web.

                          Assuming this is an incorrect statement, since BSP knows and follows the law, the RSO has in all likelihood just engaged in a tortious act of business defamation. Could easily have said ". . . suspected to be in violation of California law . . . " but chose instead to make a direct, positive statement. I don't think this is a privileged statement, either, nor do I think that the County of Riverside will have soverign immunity for this statement.

                          BSP, get together with your counsel and discuss your options for a civil lawsuit for business defamation. Falsely accusing a business of violating the law is defamatory per se.

                          As for why BATFE was involved, it's in the assertion that these were "AK-47 assault weapons," i.e., FA and subject to the NFA, thus a Federal issue.
                          Last edited by aplinker; 03-08-2008, 11:10 AM.

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                          • colossians323
                            Crusader for the truth!
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 21637

                            Can we sticky this thread? (not that it is not going to stay at the top)
                            LIVE FREE OR DIE!

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                            Originally posted by M. Sage
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                            • Beatone
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 4053

                              Originally posted by uclaplinker
                              +1

                              THIS is what I was getting ready to post. It's slander/defamation. They don't use the word "allegedly."

                              My guess on the ATF isn't yours: I'm betting ATF was there for their "expert advice" on how to go through the books of FFLs.
                              You are correct Sir.
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                              • dwtt
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 7470

                                Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
                                Chris we know you will read this, we are ready to step up and defend you on this.

                                No one ask anymore questions about where to donate. Gene said he is working on it so when he has the info it will be posted and we will organize a Blackwater Ops style defense.
                                So, when the rifles are given back and all charges are dropped, are we going to have a Bright Spot Pawn Dinner? Pick a restaurant with cute waitresses.

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