The STOP SB 249 (Yee) Campaign: Moves fwd to Appropriations Cmte - Back to Work!!

[adampolo13]

Oh yeah, I sent emails and letters to all the Approp Comm. last night. Canned email were sent back stating not to expect a response if I'm not from their district. Basically, if I can't get YOUR vote, I don't care....

We have to get more attention than just the Appropriations cmte, we have to get EVERYONE's attention!!!

[Dantedamean]

THIS is the problem. ANY legislator who writes/sponsors legislation that turns out to be unconstitutional should be permanently barred from politics.

It should be a mandatory prerequisite to understand the Constitution. There are plenty more DBs around to replace those who fall to stupidity.

^^^ this
I've been saying this for years. I also think they should be fined if they wrote it and possibly thrown in jail if the investigators can prove this was there intent.

[XD40SUBBIE]

THIS is the problem. ANY legislator who writes/sponsors legislation that turns out to be unconstitutional should be permanently barred from politics.

It should be a mandatory prerequisite to understand the Constitution. There are plenty more DBs around to replace those who fall to stupidity.

the problem with tossing senators out because they wrote a law, later interpreted as unconstitutional is that sometimes, the constitutionality of a bill or law is vague. For instance, take California gun laws that are given accolades by the left as the "model" for the nation- we obviously see these laws as violations of the 2A and non-infringement. So why are they still here? That's because states are given rights under 10A. CA can argue, they are not infringing on 2A, per se, but limiting and restricting 2A to serve the best interest and safety of the people of CA. Which will uphold. They are not restricting the right to bare arms, since the xn never stated what types of arms, how many rounds, cyclic rate, which model or even a defintion on what these arms are.

The point is, with a vaguely written xn, it is hard to know initially what the constitutionality of a law is; this is why we have the SCOTUS.

[adampolo13]

Response from Windham...

That was fast!

Info Info Info@windhamweaponry.com
10:15 AM (31 minutes ago)

to me


Mr. XXXXXXX,
Thank you for your support of our company. Also, thank you for your email concerning SB 249, I will forward this to our legal council for review to find out what kind of action we could take.

Matt Hasty
Retail Sales Manager
Office: 207-893-2223

[adampolo13]

[JSolie]

It's 2012 and we have to FAX our reps to get the point across. Jeez.

Postage stamps still work, too. They're even more old school that Facsimile transmitting machines.

[Dantedamean]

the problem with tossing senators out because they wrote a law, later interpreted as unconstitutional is that sometimes, the constitutionality of a bill or law is vague. For instance, take California gun laws that are given accolades by the left as the "model" for the nation- we obviously see these laws as violations of the 2A and non-infringement. So why are they still here? That's because states are given rights under 10A. CA can argue, they are not infringing on 2A, per se, but limiting and restricting 2A to serve the best interest and safety of the people of CA. Which will uphold. They are not restricting the right to bare arms, since the xn never stated what types of arms, how many rounds, cyclic rate, which model or even a defintion on what these arms are.

The point is, with a vaguely written xn, it is hard to know initially what the constitutionality of a law is; this is why we have the SCOTUS.

Ya but if they knew they could get thrown out of politics for writing an unconstitutional law they would definitely do there homework before submitting it. I hate the way they keep just throwing these laws out there to see what happens.

As far as the vagueness of "arms" in the constitution, they didn't have a difference in firearms back then. A musket was a musket, there was no military grade firearm and civilian firearm. The founding fathers were smart in predicting firearms would advance but most likely didn't predict such a large gap in civilian and government weapons.
What makes me happy is the founding fathers saw the right to bare arms was second only to freedom of speech.

[DarkSoul]

Don't buy into Keigwins comments, I am sure more than half are BS, it's just a shady tactic from a shady senators aid, I guarantee they are both sitting back laughing at the stress it's causing CalGunners.

As for getting the attention of the senators, a hand written/typed and signed letter makes a much larger statement than any email. It shows that you are concerned enough total ethe time, so I encourage you all to ALSO type up a letter, sign and mail to allnthe reps/senators. I know I will be busy with this over the next few days.

[DGoodale]

Assembly Members for the Committee on Appropriations FAX numbers

Felipe Fuentes - Chair (916) 319-2139
Diane L. Harkey - Vice Chair (916) 319-2173
Bob Blumenfield (916) 319-2140
Steven Bradford (916) 319-2151
Charles M. Calderon (916) 319-2158
Nora Campos (916) 319-2123
Mike Davis (916) 319-2148
Tim Donnelly (916) 319-2159
Mike Gatto (916) 319-2143
Isadore Hall III (916) 319-2152
Jerry Hill (916) 319-2119
Ricardo Lara (916) 319-2150
Holly J. Mitchell (916) 319-2147
Jim Nielsen 916-319-2102
Chris Norby (916) 319-2172
Jose Solorio (916) 319-2169
Donald P. Wagner (916) 319-2170

Assembly Appropriations Committee
State Capitol, Room 2114
Sacramento, California 95814
916.319.2081 phone
916.319.2181 fax

[goober]

Assembly Members for the Committee on Appropriations FAX numbers

Felipe Fuentes - Chair (916) 319-2139
Diane L. Harkey - Vice Chair (916) 319-2173
Bob Blumenfield (916) 319-2140
Steven Bradford (916) 319-2151
Charles M. Calderon (916) 319-2158
Nora Campos (916) 319-2123
Mike Davis (916) 319-2148
Tim Donnelly (916) 319-2159
Mike Gatto (916) 319-2143
Isadore Hall III (916) 319-2152
Jerry Hill (916) 319-2119
Ricardo Lara (916) 319-2150
Holly J. Mitchell (916) 319-2147
Jim Nielsen 916-319-2102
Chris Norby (916) 319-2172
Jose Solorio (916) 319-2169
Donald P. Wagner (916) 319-2170

Assembly Appropriations Committee
State Capitol, Room 2114
Sacramento, California 95814
916.319.2081 phone
916.319.2181 fax

yep. and keep in mind that all their phone numbers follow the format:
(916) 319-2xdd
where x = 0 for voice, and 1 for FAX
and dd = their district number

[Lone_Gunman]

We need to hammer Keigwin and Yee.


Those of us on Twitter need to be hammering Keigwin and Yee every time they tweet something. If its cries of "racist" we need to be calling for proof. We need to hammer them to comment on Yee's letter to the CA DOJ where he explicitly lays out that he wants to ban Bullet Buttons, not just Mag Magnets.

Every time they speak we need to hammer them with it. Yee made a grave tactical mistake writing that letter, and we need to put it in their faces every second. The Yee DOJ letter can be found here : tinyurl.com/yee-doj

My tweets on the matter since yesterday. Let's keep it in their faces.

@akeigwin @StopSB249 Re: racist comments- proof or it didnt happen. You cant argue substance, youre reduced to cries of "racist" #StopSB249


@akeigwin @StopSB249 are you going to comment on Yee's letter to the DOJ Re: banning the bullet button entirely? tinyurl.com/yee-doj


@akeigwin @LelandYee @CalgunsFdn Still waiting for a response on Yee's CA DOJ letter RE: ban the Bullet Button entirely tinyurl.com/yee-doj


@LelandYee Comment on your 6/4 letter to CA DOJ Re: ban the bullet button entirely? tinyurl.com/yee-doj
#SB249 #BulletButton @CalgunsFdn


@akeigwin Comment on the 6/4 letter sent by Yee to CA DOJ Re: ban the bullet button entirely? tinyurl.com/yee-doj
#StopSB249 @CalgunsFdn

[safaridave]

Letter sent. Can't believe SF politics is becoming mainstream these days.

[wildhawker]

Postage stamps still work, too. They're even more old school that Facsimile transmitting machines.

Or you can do it the 2012 way and we'll submit a hard copy letter on our dime via http://stopsb249.org/send-a-letter.

-Brandon

[wildhawker]

yep. and keep in mind that all their phone numbers follow the format:
(916) 319-2xdd
where x = 0 for voice, and 1 for FAX
and dd = their district number

All relevant contact information for Yee's office and Approps is here: http://stopsb249.org/contacts.

-Brandon

[goober]

All relevant contact information for Yee's office and Approps is here: http://stopsb249.org/contacts.

-Brandon

Nice!
Been hoping for that, well done