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  • navyinrwanda
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 599

    Originally posted by Dantedamean
    wow, my mind has been blown at how screwed up this bill is >.<

    Im guessing they'll eventually change the wording a bit to make the bullet button illegal too. [Yee] said he wants to get rid of them.
    Of course this is what will happen. And CGF has just published a tutorial on how to fix SB 249.

    Originally posted by rbetts
    Dude, the bill wants to ban mag magnets. I think that is great. If it happens to extend to bullet buttons, then so be it BECAUSE then YEE will be singly responsible for introducing close to a million new AW's into the state. NO politician wants this type of suicide attached to their career.

    Remember, you can't make citizens legal activities illegal without grandfathering or some sort of registration period ( you have read Lockyers letter to the governor about OLL's). So banning the BB deprives me of my legal firearm and violates my second amendment rights. Manufacturers are still ordering volumes of bullet buttons, and sales are increasing.
    regulatory

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    • surfguy
      Member
      • Apr 2012
      • 152

      The OP listed numerous ways we as gun owners can help and take action on this. The OP, Jason Davis, and a few others are "the right people" I've heard referred to here before, are they not? Take action!

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      • Peter.Steele
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2010
        • 7351

        After some off-line discussions with some people, I'm going to withdraw my Chicken Little comments from earlier.

        While I do believe that the threat from SB249 lies mainly in other directions than what are being most talked about, I do have to concede that there are a few ways - if the planets and stars are all in the right alignment, and you've got some very esoteric combinations of parts, some of which may or may not be even available on the market - that SB249 could cause problems as described in this thread, above and beyond what I had previously considered.

        I'm not going to discuss this any further in public.
        NRA Life Member

        No posts of mine on Calguns are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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        • otteray
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2006
          • 3246

          Signed, shared, liked here in santa cruz, too!
          I don't own one, but I will support your right too!
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          Single fin mentality

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          • FX-05 Xiuhcoatl
            Veteran Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 3103

            signed and shared, even on facebook
            Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.
            One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.

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            • SVenigma
              Member
              • Apr 2012
              • 179

              Signed, shared, and liked.

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              • J.S.Riesch
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2010
                • 528

                Signed. I don't Facebook/Tweet.
                Disclaimer: Unless otherwise stated, I have no idea what I'm talking about.

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                • Turbinator
                  Administrator
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 11930

                  Originally posted by rogervzv
                  Personally I do not use my earlier-acquired large caps because I cannot prove when I acquired mine, which was circa 1981-82. Once in a while I see a bold soul at the range using a grandfathered large cap.
                  I don't understand this mentality. I use my pre-2000 hicap mags all the time at the range or on BLM whenever I feel like it. Burden is on law enforcement to prove that they are not legal, not on owners to prove they are legal.

                  Turby

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                  • SilverTauron
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 5699

                    Originally posted by Turbinator
                    I don't understand this mentality. I use my pre-2000 hicap mags all the time at the range or on BLM whenever I feel like it. Burden is on law enforcement to prove that they are not legal, not on owners to prove they are legal.

                    Turby

                    Bringing legal high-cap magazine to range=cost $0.
                    Being arrested for wrongful felony charge and associated bail and expenses=$20,000
                    Working overtime at your job to pay off the legal debt while the incompetent arresting cop gets a service medal=priceless.
                    The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be.
                    The more subsidies you have, the less self reliant people will be.
                    -Lao-Tzu, Tau Te Ching. 479 BCE

                    The 1911 may have been in wars for 100 years, but Masetro Bartolomeo Beretta was arming the world 400 years before John Browning was ever a wet dream.

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                    • wizdumb
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 850

                      I just donated to CGF and took advantage of my company's matching program. Hope it helps to stop this bill and fight the other crazy laws here in California!
                      Please verify historical quotes before putting them in your signature.

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                      • hornswaggled
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 1650

                        Shared on FB even though I positively HATE sharing "movements" on FB. If it gets 2 more signatures then it's worth it!
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                        • wildhawker
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 14150

                          Originally posted by SilverTauron
                          Bringing legal high-cap magazine to range=cost $0.
                          Being arrested for wrongful felony charge and associated bail and expenses=$20,000
                          Working overtime at your job to pay off the legal debt while the incompetent arresting cop gets a service medal=priceless.
                          If you are otherwise conducting yourself in a lawful manner, then CGF would be pleased to defend a pure large cap mag possession case.

                          -Brandon
                          Brandon Combs

                          I do not read private messages, and my inbox is usually full. If you need to reach me, please email me instead.

                          My comments are not the official position or a statement of any organization unless stated otherwise. My comments are not legal advice; if you want or need legal advice, hire a lawyer.

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                          • wildhawker
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 14150

                            Originally posted by hornswaggled
                            Shared on FB even though I positively HATE sharing "movements" on FB. If it gets 2 more signatures then it's worth it!
                            Thank you, it's worth it!

                            -Brandon
                            Brandon Combs

                            I do not read private messages, and my inbox is usually full. If you need to reach me, please email me instead.

                            My comments are not the official position or a statement of any organization unless stated otherwise. My comments are not legal advice; if you want or need legal advice, hire a lawyer.

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                            • wildhawker
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 14150

                              Stop SB 249 one-pagers are up! At http://stopsb249.org/downloads-info-sheets.

                              Post #1 updated.

                              Actions

                              1. Sending Sen. Yee a letter of opposition: http://stopsb249.org/tellyee

                              2. Mailing the Assembly Committee on Public Safety a hard-copy letter of opposition. (Just fill out the form and we will send it for you - no need to worry about stamps, addresses, or envelopes!): http://stopsb249.org/send-a-letter

                              3. Signing our Change.org petition: https://www.change.org/petitions/stop-sb-249

                              4. Printing out our SB 249 FAQ One-Pagers - post them at the range, on counters at gun shops, and everywhere you can!

                              5. Calling Sen. Yee’s office (916-651-4008) and ask for the SB 249 “Fact Sheet” and “Backgrounder”. Be polite and express your opposition in a calm, respectful manner.

                              6. Helping the Stop SB 249 Campaign go viral (share this with your networks as fast as you can).
                              - Liking us on Facebook and sharing StopSB249.org (and our SB 249 news) with your friends.
                              - Following our Twitter feed and Tweet "I stand with @StopSB249, @calgunsfdn, and @cal_ffl in opposing @LelandYee's gun control bill #SB249. Not one more inch!"
                              - Following Stop SB 249 on Google+.

                              7. Checking back in at stopsb249.org for the latest updates and alerts.

                              8. Contributing to the war chest by making fully tax-deductible donations at bit.ly/helpstopsb249 and urging your fellow FFLs (including FFL03 collectors) to join Cal-FFL.

                              -Brandon
                              Brandon Combs

                              I do not read private messages, and my inbox is usually full. If you need to reach me, please email me instead.

                              My comments are not the official position or a statement of any organization unless stated otherwise. My comments are not legal advice; if you want or need legal advice, hire a lawyer.

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                              • sreiter
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 1664

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                                "personal security, personal liberty, and private property"--could not be maintained solely by law, for "in vain would these rights be declared, ascertained, and protected by the dead letter of the laws, if the constitution had provided no other method to secure their actual enjoyment." -
                                William Blackstone

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