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  • #31
    cxr
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 1017

    So what are we gonna do when they rule on the BB and it becomes illegal?

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    • #32
      Untamed1972
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Mar 2009
      • 17579

      Originally posted by cxr
      So what are we gonna do when they rule on the BB and it becomes illegal?
      I think they've already gone on court record as saying it IS legal....so it would be pretty hard for them to change their opinion on that now.
      "Freedom begins with an act of defiance"

      Quote for the day:
      "..the mind is the weapon and the hand only its extention. Discipline your mind!" Master Hao, Chenrezi monastery, Valley of the Sun

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      • #33
        stix213
        AKA: Joe Censored
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Apr 2009
        • 18998

        Originally posted by carsonwales
        No

        I love the work Cal Guns does...and in the end their single greatest accomplishment will have been to re-open AR style purchases to California citizens via the Bullet Button..for a brief period of time...they stuck their foot in a closing window at the right time... and gave purchasers an opportunity to either buy their first 'weapon'...or flesh out and existing cache...that window is open today...but it will close...

        Count on it

        God bless you guys at Cal Guns...keep hammering away on the judicial battle front

        Some of us see the ultimate writing on the wall...its undeniable in this rubes eye what is coming...given the pace of change we have seen in the last few years...

        Just be prepared for whatever comes
        Why are you even here spreading your defeatist crap anyways? The "pace of change" nationwide for several years now has been the expansion of gun rights. Where do I click to add to ignore list....

        Originally posted by cxr
        So what are we gonna do when they rule on the BB and it becomes illegal?
        CA DOJ already has admitted in court that they are legal. Kinda a done deal - legal.

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        • #34
          BT JUSTICE
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 1024

          Great video, but what's it got to do with open carry as the Youtube title suggests?

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          • #35
            TwoAsoapbox
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 713

            What a great video. Where is the NRA?
            "The pen is mightier than the sword....until someone tries to take your pen away." -RS

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            • #36
              dieselpower
              Banned
              • Jan 2009
              • 11471

              Originally posted by BT JUSTICE
              Great video, but what's it got to do with open carry as the Youtube title suggests?
              The op is showing that bad laws get worse as time goes on if not stopped quickly.

              That vid is old, try this one which is a little more current


              I couldnt find the video on Matt and how a simple Myspace page cost $50,000 in legal bills.

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              • #37
                Wherryj
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Mar 2010
                • 11085

                Originally posted by ScottB
                More like 1999-2000

                I still don't understand why an SKS with a detachable mag is treated any differently than an M1 Carbine
                Because "SKS" sounds WAY MORE SCARY than M1. It even has more letters!

                Don't even mention the word "Streetsweeper" or a kitten is sacrificed upon the alter of ignorance.
                "What is a moderate interpretation of the text? Halfway between what it really means and what you'd like it to mean?"
                -Antonin Scalia, Supreme Court Justice
                "Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
                I like my guns like the left likes their voters-"undocumented".

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                • #38
                  Cokebottle
                  Seņor Member
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 32373

                  Originally posted by Untamed1972
                  I always wondered why these laws were not challengable as being unconstitutional with regard to the USCONs prohibition on "retroactive law making"?
                  You are thinking of ex-post-facto, and that is not a prohibition on "retroactive lawmaking", it is a prohibition on prosecution for an act that was determined to be a crime after the act was committed.

                  IE: You possess a widget today and give it away.
                  Tomorrow, widgets are ruled illegal to possess.
                  Under ex-post-facto, you can not be prosecuted for possession of the widget because it was not a crime when you possessed it.
                  - Rich

                  Originally posted by dantodd
                  A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                  • #39
                    Cokebottle
                    Seņor Member
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 32373

                    Originally posted by Uxi
                    I'm mixed, but it I think continual registration would ultimately be preferable to BB's, though obviously not as ideal as a complete lack of infringement.
                    Good with bad.

                    RAW allows for a featured build, no BB, and high caps (subject to the same magazine laws as any modern gun).

                    RAW also requires transport in a locked container.
                    RAW also requires transport with specific destinations.
                    - Rich

                    Originally posted by dantodd
                    A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                    • #40
                      jamesob
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 4821

                      Originally posted by jgraham7897
                      Not only this, but only in California can it be made retroactive as well.
                      thats funny because everything passed in california can be retroactive exept the 2 term limits for governors, that seems to be ok

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                      • #41
                        TwoAsoapbox
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 713

                        Cokebottle, please dont use the term "high cap." Thats an anti gun term popularized by the Brady Campaign and the media.
                        "The pen is mightier than the sword....until someone tries to take your pen away." -RS

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                        • #42
                          Meplat
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 6903

                          Originally posted by Cokebottle
                          No laws have changed since the .50BMG ban that could have turned someone into a felon "overnight"
                          The point is that even today an administrative change in interpretation could do just that.
                          sigpicTake not lightly liberty
                          To have it you must live it
                          And like love, don't you see
                          To keep it you must give it

                          "I will talk with you no more.
                          I will go now, and fight you."
                          (Red Cloud)

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                          • #43
                            SwPx4
                            Member
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 253

                            Why don't these guys sign on to the pending lawsuit that CGF has going now?

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                            • #44
                              Uxi
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 5155

                              Originally posted by Cokebottle
                              Good with bad.

                              RAW allows for a featured build, no BB, and high caps (subject to the same magazine laws as any modern gun).

                              RAW also requires transport in a locked container.
                              RAW also requires transport with specific destinations.
                              Right. If it were an option, I think I would choose to register one or two weapons and the others would be featureless. Doubt any would have BB's.
                              "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson

                              9mm + 5.56mm =
                              .45ACP + 7.62 NATO =
                              10mm + 6.8 SPC =
                              sigpic

                              Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis; Jn 1:14

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                              • #45
                                Cokebottle
                                Seņor Member
                                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 32373

                                Originally posted by TwoAsoapbox
                                Cokebottle, please dont use the term "high cap." Thats an anti gun term popularized by the Brady Campaign and the media.
                                "Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device" also happens to be a term codified in California's penal code.


                                Excuuuse me for not feeling like typing "Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device"
                                - Rich

                                Originally posted by dantodd
                                A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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