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  • #16
    SantaCabinetguy
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2011
    • 15137

    Originally posted by Dreaded Claymore
    Does anyone know when and where this was first aired on TV, and by whom?
    One of the interviewed mentions the "recent passing of SB23", so I am guessing early 2000s
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    • #17
      ScottB
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 1431

      More like 1999-2000

      I still don't understand why an SKS with a detachable mag is treated any differently than an M1 Carbine

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      • #18
        unusedusername
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 4124

        The State AG lost the ability to add to the SB23 list sometime back due to the passing of another law.

        This is a good reminder of where we were 10 years ago, but we are more on the winning side of things now. We just have to keep it up.

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        • #19
          Cokebottle
          Señor Member
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2009
          • 32373

          Originally posted by unusedusername
          The State AG lost the ability to add to the SB23 list sometime back due to the passing of another law.
          2006 the DOJ's "window" to add new lowers to the list was closed.

          And that is the ironic thing (and the origin of the whole "two weeks" meme here on CGN).

          SB23 banned by feature, but the lists were still open.
          The DOJ... Alison, Iggy, and their cronies along with final approval from Lockyer... could have added every new lower that was built to the list for almost 6 years.
          Alison and Iggy came to gun shows, looked at the lowers for sale, and said that they would be on the list in "two weeks"

          They never appeared on the list. No lowers were added after the 1999 ban.
          2006, the list was locked, Iggy blew a gasket and put a slug into his desk. Ultimately, the "Bureau" of Firearms was reduced to a "department" under Brown.
          - Rich

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          A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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          • #20
            JoeJinKY
            Banned
            • Oct 2011
            • 851

            Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
            You guys are forgetting that other state have gone farther than California. In fact, in several states mere possession of a +10 or +15 round magazine is a felony. Yep, states like HI NJ and MA went retroactive on magazines as well as ownership of certain firearms.
            So ... if the gu'mint stabs you with a 10" knife, you should be grateful that they're not stabbing you with a 12" knife like the other states? GET REAL.

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            • #21
              repubconserv
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 3056

              I can not wait for CGF and the others to slap the dog shi... snot.... out of CA and it's retarded gun laws

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              • #22
                CSACANNONEER
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                • Dec 2006
                • 44092

                Originally posted by JoeJinKY
                So ... if the gu'mint stabs you with a 10" knife, you should be grateful that they're not stabbing you with a 12" knife like the other states? GET REAL.
                Get a clue. I was commenting on the post below. Note the word "only"??? Obviously, California is not the only state that does this. Maybe a little reading comprehension is in order then, maybe you will be able to "get real".

                Originally posted by 707electrician
                Only in California can you be following the law one day and the next day, with no change in your actions, you are a felon
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                • #23
                  donw
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 1754

                  i think the California state legislature has a history of creating more problems than they solve, don't they?
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                  we are told not to judge muslims by what a few do...yet, the NRA membership and firearms owners are ALL considered as radical...

                  "The second amendment ain't about your deer rifle..."

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                  • #24
                    Wherryj
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 11085

                    Originally posted by 707electrician
                    Only in California can you be following the law one day and the next day, with no change in your actions, you are a felon
                    Not only in CA unfortunately. New York has made "examples" of several people traveling legally with weapons into felons.
                    "What is a moderate interpretation of the text? Halfway between what it really means and what you'd like it to mean?"
                    -Antonin Scalia, Supreme Court Justice
                    "Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
                    I like my guns like the left likes their voters-"undocumented".

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                    • #25
                      Untamed1972
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 17579

                      I always wondered why these laws were not challengable as being unconstitutional with regard to the USCONs prohibition on "retroactive law making"?
                      "Freedom begins with an act of defiance"

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                      "..the mind is the weapon and the hand only its extention. Discipline your mind!" Master Hao, Chenrezi monastery, Valley of the Sun

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                      • #26
                        scrat
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 1516

                        Wow pretty sad
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                        • #27
                          Uxi
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 5155

                          Originally posted by unusedusername
                          The State AG lost the ability to add to the SB23 list sometime back due to the passing of another law.

                          This is a good reminder of where we were 10 years ago, but we are more on the winning side of things now. We just have to keep it up.
                          I'm mixed, but it I think continual registration would ultimately be preferable to BB's, though obviously not as ideal as a complete lack of infringement.
                          "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson

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                          • #28
                            fonso
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 838

                            Originally posted by Untamed1972
                            I always wondered why these laws were not challengable as being unconstitutional with regard to the USCONs prohibition on "retroactive law making"?
                            Me, too. Especially since both the U.S. and the California Constitutions prohibit ex post facto laws from being enacted!!!
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                            • #29
                              Kid Stanislaus
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 4419

                              Originally posted by jgraham7897
                              Not only this, but only in California can it be made retroactive as well.
                              Pardon the live'n snot out of me but isen't that an ex post facto law?
                              Things usually turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out.

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                              • #30
                                Untamed1972
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 17579

                                Originally posted by fonso
                                Me, too. Especially since both the U.S. and the California Constitutions prohibit ex post facto laws from being enacted!!!

                                At a minimum one should be immune from prosecution for posession of the now prohibited item. If it was legally purchased and later banned the most they should be subject to is confiscation of the item. Not that I agree with that either....but you shouldnt be prosecuted if it was legal when you obtained it.
                                "Freedom begins with an act of defiance"

                                Quote for the day:
                                "..the mind is the weapon and the hand only its extention. Discipline your mind!" Master Hao, Chenrezi monastery, Valley of the Sun

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