Pro-LTC/CCW Documentary Needed

[Tarn_Helm]

Given the last 30 years of CCW reform in this country and the coincident fall in the crime rate--along with a glaring absence of the often-prophesied "CCW bloodbath"--now is the time to make a documentary about the sea change that has taken place in CCW reform in the U.S.

People--the vast majority--don't read books, know history, or engage in long chains of technical reasoning.

People do watch movies.

Even documentaries.

(Consider Bowling for Columbine and An Inconvenient Truth.)

If we--the pro-2AM community--could get a really slick documentary made that breaks down the history of the CCW reforms of last 30 years, and if the documentary includes interviews with real, "ordinary" people who used a firearm in an act of lawful self-defense (concealed or unconcealed), then I believe we could use the documentary to help turn the tide in the remaining states which deny shall-issue.

We need to reach the vast majority by way of the big screen, as well as by DVD and other distribution methods.

Such a documentary would not be a commercial success for the people who made it.

A pro-CCW documentary would need to be funded primarily by those who would financially benefit the most: the big names in handgun manufacturing (it's only fair--they make the money--they should help us get the right to carry what they sell us).

(Funding is not my main point here--we'll actually need funding from every source, so let's all stay on track.)

The big screen (along with various home viewing systems: TV, internet, etc.) is the "tribal campfire" of our time.

It is time to bring our message to the "tribal campfire."

Books and websites and 2AM forums are too small-scalle to be useful in the short term.

Let's make sure I am understood: A documentary of this kind would not be a "silver bullet," a magic solution that solves the problem in one shot, but it is an absolutely necessary component in a strategy to turn the remaining "Non-shall-issue CCW states"
in our favor.

Time to go big or go home.

[Ubermcoupe]

Im for it and would love to help out. There has to be calguns member who’s also a film maker right?

[NoJoke]

Would FOX tackle this one?

Aren't they the self proclaimed conservative news?

[Firemark]

For it to carry any weight and reach the main populous that are spoon fed propoganda by Hollywood it would have to be backed by big well known names and supported by BIG hollywood stars with a large fan base and quite a few of them.

Using just the usual suspects that already have been labeled by big liberal media and Hollywood as "Gun Wacko" types wouldnt work. The likes of Ted Nugent, Wayne LaPierre, Tom Selleck, The NRA, are to well known and to well labeled by the Left as extremist and have been challenged in public debate before.

Big Hollywood who are pro gun all throwing there hat in the ring and participating narrating the documentary and supporting is your best chance of reaching enough people to swing the pendulum over the midpoint towards 2A rights and change.
People like Denzel Washigton, Joe Mantegna, Bruce Willis, James Earl Jones, Owen Wilson, Kurt Russel, Robert Duvall, Eva Longoria, R Lee Ermey, Put a cast like that together, tie in the Racist origins of gun control, make it a history docudrama, interviews with gun victim survivors (Suzanna Hupp, etc.) and military veterans. Show how the stance on gun control has changed the past 2 decades and no blood baths in the street or shoot outs at fender benders, how crime has decreased. And then tie in the last hold out states that continue to deny Americans their rights and their struggle as it continues today. Show it in theaters at the most opportune time (before an election, or 4th Of July).

Then provide a link in the movie trailer and at the end or all during the movie to a website that shows people that want to know more, how all the FACTS used in the movie have credible sources and an easy place to look them up, and include ways people can help change the laws that are unconstituional.

It would cost money, but it could be well worth it.

[nicki]

Documentaries versus entertainment.

Documentaries tend to "loose money", what I would focus on instead is entertainment.

Most of the hollywood movies always make the good guys some kind of government agent, not a regular person.

Racism, how about a movie about the "Collafax massacre" and the aftermath, that would tie "gun control" and racism together. This lead to the "Cruinshak case" which gutted the 14th amendment and opened the way for the "Jim Crow" era.

I am sure we can find events that happened in US history where stories could be made tying racism and gun control together.

For me, the thing to do is create an actual company that makes independent films where we get the scripts from actual events in American history.

Other than Mel Gibson's movie, the "Patriot", there hasn't been a whole lot of movies about the American Revolution.

How about a movie about the battle of Lexington and Concord. They hold annual re enactments over in Mass, so it isn't like we couldn't find extras that already have the equipment.

Another battle in the American revolution we most people don't know about is "Kings mountain" in the south was a "bloodbath" for the British, that could be made into a movie something like "300".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kings_Mountain

Nicki

[InGrAM]

Would FOX tackle this one?

Aren't they the self proclaimed conservative news?

No, they are the "fair and balanced" news channel.

[Paladin]

This would be important IF we were planning to win "Shall Issue" via a political fight -- we're not. Our focus is winning in the federal courts. How do we help that? Ironically, by a political fight, but a slightly different one. (1) By making sure Obama is a 1 term president and that his replacement is pro-RKBA. (2) By making sure that "we" (i.e., the NRA), replace more antis with pros in the US Senate (they give their thumbs up or down to federal judges as well as vote on federal legislation), the US House of Reps (fed legislation), as well as state governors, senators, representatives. (3) By doing the same at the local level to completely rout the antis and kill off their "next gen" politicos.

So instead of a movie, spend time, money, and effort supporting the NRA Political Victory Fund instead (http://www.nrapvf.org/). They are the only part of the NRA that can spend money supporting pro-RKBA candidates and spend it fighting against anti candidates (http://www.nraila.org/About/PoliticalVictoryFund/).

There are an estimated 90M gun owners in the US out of a total pop of ~330M. If we just got "ourselves" motivated and educated about the politicos who are running, and got out and voted pro-gun (regardless if it is Romney, Bachmann, Ron Paul, or, as bwiese used to say, "a donkey-sex maniac"), we'd get the laws we want and the judges we want. This election is CRITICAL -- Ginsburg is on her last leg.

Here's a list of 15 thing YOU CAN DO to advance our cause" that I first posted back ~'07 and have added to my Crime Avoidance and Self-Defense Advice linked in my sig line. Email it to family, friends, sympathetic coworkers, classmates, church members, etc. around the country. This is a lot cheaper, easier, and more likely to actually get done.

*****

(1) Register to vote (https://ovr.ss.ca.gov/votereg/OnlineVoterReg), and, come hell or high water, vote in EVERY election, whether it is "just a primary" or a general election. Encourage your pro-RKBA family members and friends to do the same. Pass the link of this webpage on to them.

(2) Join the NRA or upgrade your membership to Life, Endowment, Patron or Benefactor levels (http://membership.nrahq.org/). Major donors who can contribute significant amounts to the fight, go to: http://ringoffreedom.com/index.html

(3) Take newbies shooting. Make the first time as easy as possible by providing ear and eye protection and the guns (and cleaning them yourself afterwards). If you want to be generous, pay for the range fees and the ammo too. Be sure to give the new shooters a safety lesson before going to the range.

(4) Give NRA memberships and Junior memberships as Christmas/birthday/graduation/other gifts (http://membership.nrahq.org/). Be sure to mention the free subscription to either America's 1st Freedom, American Rifleman or American Hunter (or InSights for Juniors) magazine and all the free benefits (http://www.nra.org/benefits.aspx and http://www.nra.org/affiliates.aspx).

[/I]"Federal and many state election laws dictate that funds used to assist candidates for office must be raised separately, and that is the task of NRA’s political action committee—the NRA Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF). Neither NRA member dues nor contributions to ILA can be used directly for the election or defeat of candidates.

Because of these clearly defined parameters, and because only a small fraction of ILA’s operating budget comes from regular NRA membership dues, both ILA and NRA-PVF must continuously raise the funds needed to sustain NRA’s legislative and political activities. The resources expended in these arenas come from the generous contributions of NRA members—above and beyond their regular dues" (http://www.nraila.org/About/PoliticalVictoryFund/). Therefore,

(5) support the NRA's Institute for Legislative Action, the NRA's lobbying arm (http://www.nraila.org/About/). Sign up for their free Grassroots Alert emails at: https://secure.nraila.org/EmailSignup.aspx, and to donate, go to: https://secure.nraila.org/Contribute.aspx); and

(6) support the NRA's Political Victory Fund, the NRA's political campaigning arm (http://www.nrapvf.org/ and, if you are a NRA member, log in at the "NRA Members" page to be taken to a secure page for donating specifically to the PVF).

(7) Support the NRA Civil Rights Defense Fund, which fights for your 2nd A RKBA in state and federal courts (https://www.nradefensefund.org/index.aspx). "You can support the Fund’s work through direct donations, estate planning, and support through the CFC or United Way payroll deductions. Our Combined Federal Campaign number is 10006" (https://www.nradefensefund.org/message.aspx and https://www.nradefensefund.org/contributionsnew.aspx).

(8) Work with your local NRA Election Volunteer Coordinator (http://www.nraila.org/About/ElectionActivity/).

(9) Sign up for "CAL-ERTs" from CalNRA to know what CA state bills to support or oppose and when (http://www.calnra.com/).

(10) Join your local CalNRA Members' Council (or start one) (http://calnra.com/mc/directory/).

(11) Support the CalGuns Foundation so they can use the courts to defend our 2nd A RKBA in California (http://calgunsfoundation.org/main/).

(12) Give out pro-RKBA "business card fliers" to people whom you talk to about guns/RKBA/CLs, esp at gun shops, shooting ranges, shooting clubs (IDPA, IPSC-USPSA, PPC), and to people looking at gun magazines at newsstands (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...=1#post5295940). Stick them under the wipers of parked vehicles w/NRA, LE, military, American flag, martial arts, Ducks Unlimited, etc, decals.

(13) Put up RKBA/CL fliers, keep some in your car w/tape/stapler and post them at different places you go (esp those mentioned in regard to the business cards) (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...ad.php?t=72830).

(14) Every 2 yrs new voters get to vote for the first time -- figure out how to influence the youth for our cause (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...ad.php?t=72594). BB guns, pellet guns, AirSoft and paintball can be good half-way steps for minors, esp for those who, for one reason or another, can't use firearms. See also numbers 1, 3, and 4 above. The youth are our future!

(15) And last, stop funding our enemies by boycotting the various organizations, celebrities, and companies that the NRA has identified as supporting the fight against us (http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?ID=15).

See also: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...ad.php?t=60176

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=55793

[voiceofreason]

More pro-gun references. Good.

[Tarn_Helm]

No to Fox.

Would FOX tackle this one?

Aren't they the self proclaimed conservative news?

Ideally, the people and sources in the film would be from "both" parties--all parties, actually--including misinformed people, whose views would then be soundly refuted by other interviewees.

It should not look like some simple-minded effort at "right wing" propaganda.

I like the way the funding and credits look in In Search of the Second Amendment.

[Tarn_Helm]

pro-armed-self-defense documentary needed

Documentaries tend to "loose money", what I would focus on instead is entertainment.

Most of the hollywood movies always make the good guys some kind of government agent, not a regular person.

Racism, how about a movie about the "Collafax massacre" and the aftermath, that would tie "gun control" and racism together. This lead to the "Cruinshak case" which gutted the 14th amendment and opened the way for the "Jim Crow" era.

I am sure we can find events that happened in US history where stories could be made tying racism and gun control together.

For me, the thing to do is create an actual company that makes independent films where we get the scripts from actual events in American history.

Other than Mel Gibson's movie, the "Patriot", there hasn't been a whole lot of movies about the American Revolution.

How about a movie about the battle of Lexington and Concord. They hold annual re enactments over in Mass, so it isn't like we couldn't find extras that already have the equipment.

Another battle in the American revolution we most people don't know about is "Kings mountain" in the south was a "bloodbath" for the British, that could be made into a movie something like "300".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kings_Mountain

Nicki

Some responses to your comments:

1. The documentary I propose here is not intended to make any money at all.
It's aim is to inform in such a way as to open eyes and change minds.

2. It should not be a "Hollywood movie," in any way shape or form.
It should be a documentary in the vein of In Search of the Second Amendment, but focused on CCW (LTC).

3. I agree that the Colfax Massacre, recently documented in two different books, is important--so important that it merits its own documentary, unrelated to CCW (LTC).

4. A series of historical documentaries showing how gun control has invariably been motivated by racism is needed--but again, this is a separate but vital issue, requiring a completely separate film.

5. I liked The Patriot--"aim small, miss small" one of my favorite lines of all time.

6. I agree that the Battle of Concord deserves a movie--but the CCW (LTC) documentary is a separate issue.

7. Thank you for another awesome idea for a film: Battle of Kings Mountain! But still, this would have to be a different project, unrelated to a CCW (LTC) documentary.

Perhaps the focus would be better defined as pro-armed-self-defense, and not strictly CCW.

[dantodd]

I have to admit it would be nice to do a REALLY short documentary on the value of a License to Carry and include a list of some of the better known Hollywood types who have licenses, especially the ones who publicly decry firearms....

[Tarn_Helm]

Perfect.

I have to admit it would be nice to do a REALLY short documentary on the value of a License to Carry and include a list of some of the better known Hollywood types who have licenses, especially the ones who publicly decry firearms....

That is an excellent idea for the opening of the documentary: The hypocrisy of certain high profile anti-gun CCW holders.

[monk]

Have Michael Moore produce it. Or someone named Michael Moore and some fat white man star in it.

[Mr Blu]

This is a great idea!!!!

I'm a student screenwriter and I would love to write it, but I am afraid that I do not have the experience to do it justice, or even properly. My experience is in feature films, not documentaries. I at least would help with the script, but not be the primary writer.

I will ask around at school and see if there are any experienced documentary writers that are pro 2AM. The good part about this, is that my professor is running a full film production studio next quarter, so maybe we can get something going. The only downside, is that it we can only do shorts. From 3-10 minutes long.

[Tarn_Helm]

Not. Even. Funny.

Have Michael Moore produce it. Or someone named Michael Moore and some fat white man star in it.

Um.

No.

If "sarcasm," then saracasm-FAIL.