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  • #16
    Armed Citizen
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 20

    I am disappointed. However, as a member of his district who has voted for him, having recently attended a town hall meeting where there was not opportunity to hold a dialog with him because of the irates in the crowd who were not interested in conversation (most who spoke did not ask a question or have room in their rants for Lungrens comments), who called his office and talked to his staff in detail about this issue; I am not surprised. His staff told me that he has staked his career on the 10th amendement. This vote is consistent with his having been the top law enforcement officer in the state. Perhaps it would be accurate to say that he cares more about the ability of the state to police than the ability of citizens to protect themselves.

    However, it is really interesting to me that the local chief of police where the meeting was held and all the law enforcement officers in the room that I talked to (I spoke to both uniformed and plain clothes LEO's from three agencies) were all pro private citizen CCW. Or were they just being political - telling me what they thought I wanted to hear?

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    • #17
      PycckN-Comrade
      Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 106

      Politics. Everyone is looking for re-election bid.
      It's as much our fault as his.
      Him being in the office just tell you what kind of people put him in there

      OBAMA INVENTED THE TIME MACHINE!

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      • #18
        sholling
        I need a LIFE!!
        CGN Contributor
        • Sep 2007
        • 10360

        Gun Ban Dan strikes again. The guy is and always has been an anti-freedom statist.
        "Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." --FREDERIC BASTIAT--

        Proud Life Member: National Rifle Association, the Second Amendment Foundation, and the California Rifle & Pistol Association

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        • #19
          Gray Peterson
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2005
          • 5817

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          Codrea's doing a bit of NRA bashing in it but the commentary about him is accurate.

          I'm facing an NRA A+ rated politician in Colorado who is regularly using the 10th amendment to argue against my case... (John Suthers, AG of Colorado)

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          • #20
            ja308
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Nov 2009
            • 12660

            Lets see the republican led house brought this issue up .
            The republican led house expects to pass this pro self defense bill.

            It is expected to die when the democratic led senate gets to vote on it .

            Umm humm -yes I see why folks would be angry with the 1 republican that voted against self defense.

            BTW the the 10th amendment argument is stupid in this instance,it would mean states could ignore article #6 etc .

            I just checked the gunownersofamerica site for Lundrens rating --he got a disappointing C+
            However I did find nearly every democrat earned an F rating .
            Me thinks some of you protest too much.
            Last edited by ja308; 10-26-2011, 8:19 AM.

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            • #21
              Left Coast Conservative
              Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 276

              Go to his website and tell him how you feel about his vote. I did, and it accepted the message even though I don't live in his district.

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              • #22
                Gray Peterson
                Calguns Addict
                • Jan 2005
                • 5817

                Originally posted by ja308
                I just checked the gunownersofamerica site for Lundrens rating --he got a disappointing C+
                However I did find nearly every democrat earned an F rating .
                Me thinks some of you protest too much.
                The only way we win is with heads on Pikes.

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                • #23
                  Tier One Arms
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 2598

                  Originally posted by Left Coast Conservative
                  Go to his website and tell him how you feel about his vote. I did, and it accepted the message even though I don't live in his district.

                  http://lungren.house.gov/index.cfm?s...ctiontree=3,84
                  Let this RINO know how we feel.

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                  • #24
                    boxbro
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 790

                    Originally posted by AragornElessar86
                    HE'S A WITCH! BURN HIM!
                    Does he weigh as much as a duck ?
                    "Look at the tyranny of party -- at what is called party allegiance, party loyalty -- a snare invented by designing men for selfish purposes -- and which turns voters into chattles, slaves, rabbits, and all the while their masters, and they themselves are shouting rubbish about liberty, independence, freedom of opinion, freedom of speech, honestly unconscious of the fantastic contradiction....."

                    "The Character of Man," Mark Twain's Autobiography

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                    • #25
                      BluNorthern
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 10236

                      Originally posted by Left Coast Conservative
                      Go to his website and tell him how you feel about his vote. I did, and it accepted the message even though I don't live in his district.

                      http://lungren.house.gov/index.cfm?s...ctiontree=3,84
                      Thanks for the link.
                      Sent him an 'enlightening' message for him to reflect on when he goes back to the private sector next election.
                      "I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them."

                      Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars.

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                      • #26
                        jb7706
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 1570

                        Originally posted by Left Coast Conservative
                        Go to his website and tell him how you feel about his vote. I did, and it accepted the message even though I don't live in his district.

                        http://lungren.house.gov/index.cfm?s...ctiontree=3,84
                        Or you can call his DC office and tell them: (202) 225-5716. I just did, and informed his staffer that as a voting resident of his district his lack of support will definitely be a factor when he is up for reelection. Seems like we need some fresh, pro-2A blood in my district.

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                        • #27
                          berto
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 7723

                          But, but, but Lundgren has a (R) after his name. How can this be?

                          Further proof that our fight isn't left/right. We have friends and enemies on both sides.
                          "There are no outdoor sports as graceful as throwing stones at a dictatorship." Ai WeiWei

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                          • #28
                            IPSICK
                            Veteran Member
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 4259

                            Originally posted by ja308
                            ...

                            BTW the the 10th amendment argument is stupid in this instance,it would mean states could ignore article #6 etc .

                            ...
                            I'm also wondering why you would invoke the 10th Am in this instance.

                            Honestly, gun rights to me are supported by not just the 2nd Am but in the case of self-defense the 9th Am and in the case of civil rights the 14th Am.

                            The 14th Am would most likely be invoked on this matter.

                            This is all assuming that people like Lungren know what the Constitution actually says.
                            "When you get the (men) to the range, you just get the men. But when you bring the (women) to the range, you get the (whole family). And that's what's going to save our 2nd Amendment."--Dianna Liedorff

                            "Since self-preservation is the 1st law of nature, we assert the...right to self-defense. The Constitution...clearly affirms the right of every American...to bear arms. And as Americans, we will not give up a single right guaranteed under the Constitution." --Malcolm X

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                            • #29
                              CalBear
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 4279

                              So let me get this straight.

                              2A - Right to keep & bear arms protected. Applies to the states.
                              14A - P&I, DP, EP protected. Congress is given power to act on violations.
                              10A - Powers not given to the feds by the Constitution are reserved for the states / people.
                              -----> 2A protections are strictly a states rights issues.

                              WTF?

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                              • #30
                                Mute
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 8456

                                Lundgren has never been pro 2A. So it's not a surprise.
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