Dan Lungren crosses party lines and National Rifle Association

[bwiese]

"Now is it really worth your focus ,to concentrate your efforts on Lundgren? "

You know, probably it is. In a conflict like we are in with the Democrats, you really aren't going to sway any opinions and it is probably a bad investment to try. What you *can* do is make sure that your own people follow your lead without question. If DL isn't towing the line, better to lose him as an example to the others than to continue limping along with him because he's better than the others.

Exactly.

Eat "your own" first - especially if he's from a party that touts RKBA as a plank.

I do think that the CA Republican party needs to remove RKBA as a plank given their irrelevancy.

[Dreaded Claymore]

Star Wars Is Awesome

It's treason, then.

This post is tied with another one for the Best Post Ever award. May the Force be with you!

[vincewarde]

NRA linked article in "The Hill"

According to this article, the reason Lungren gave was the lack of any minimum training standards.

While I would have no problem with the bill as currently constituted, I think by not setting a basic minimum standard we are making a mistake that will give cover to Obama when he vetoes it.

Plus, the only way this will become law this session is if it is passed over his veto. Do we have the votes for that?

Maybe the plan is to let Obama veto it, then pass a bill with the minimum standards and put him in the position of either signing it or coming up with another stupid reason for vetoing it - maybe in an election year.

[Goosebrown]

I HATE the logic that we sholdn't do something because it is going to get vetoed. THAT IS THE POINT OF GOVERNMENT! PROPOSE SOMETHING! If it doesn't pass or gets vetoed, you still did it!

This attitude that you should only try to pass the laws that are easy is killing me... What is the point of legislating if you wait on your butt till everyone agrees?

[mtptwo]

Oh how I despise my rep.

[mag360]

Lou Correa, Rod Wright, Nicole Parra...

So far Alyson Huber has voted down everything. Interestingly enough, Mike Gatto voted no on AB809, AB144 but yes on SB427. There is some hope for people like him.

[Gray Peterson]

Exactly.

Eat "your own" first - especially if he's from a party that touts RKBA as a plank.

I do think that the CA Republican party needs to remove RKBA as a plank given their irrelevancy.

Dealing with "betrayers" is the fastest way of being feared by our enemies. Never forget that.

[dantodd]

According to this article, the reason Lungren gave was the lack of any minimum training standards.

While I would have no problem with the bill as currently constituted, I think by not setting a basic minimum standard we are making a mistake that will give cover to Obama when he vetoes it.

Plus, the only way this will become law this session is if it is passed over his veto. Do we have the votes for that?

Maybe the plan is to let Obama veto it, then pass a bill with the minimum standards and put him in the position of either signing it or coming up with another stupid reason for vetoing it - maybe in an election year.

The only way this will get through is as an amendment to must-pass legislation.

[jdberger]

Dannyboy Lungren is a prime example of how often "the right hates rights", and how you should never assume Reeps are pro-gun by default.

Lungren is not doing *that* well in his district and I'd love to see him taken out by a pro-gun (or even gun-neutral) Dem.

I think that can be arranged.

[dantodd]

Why is an antigun republican more disgusting than a democratic one?

Further why do C+ republicans get more anger than F rated democrats?
just asking

Simply because R's pander for gunnie votes and D's don't.

[Glock22Fan]

If we could, we should flood Ventura with pro gun Dem candidates. I know a whole bunch of people there who never look past the (D) on the voting form.

Mind you, Dems generally tend to behave like that - and so do more than a few GOP voters.

[ElvenSoul]

Not surprised anymore by our politicos!

[navyinrwanda]

Lou Correa, Rod Wright, Nicole Parra...

[Gray Peterson]

Dan Lundgren may be a RINO. He may also be a craven opportunist – or, more charitably, he may simply be responding to the wishes of his constituents. But where are the facts that support the notion that there are any better alternatives in the California Democratic Party?

When it comes politics and political gamesmanship, facts do not matter. Mr. Lungren demanded an amendment to get his support (the study) and then voted against the underlying bill.

Head on pike time. Punish the betrayer, vote him out.

[navyinrwanda]

Why is an antigun republican more disgusting than a democratic one?

Further why do C+ republicans get more anger than F rated democrats?
just asking

It's possible that some pro-gun people are also Democrats. Or they may really dislike Republicans.

Failing to be sufficiently pro-gun simply increases the level of disgust for a politician that someone is predisposed to dislike.