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  • #16
    OleCuss
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2009
    • 7933

    I'm no expert in such things, but I think I may be seeing something that has not been pointed out.

    IIRC, Chuck Michel's firm was representing Peruta. So far as I can tell that is a very good law firm whom I'd be happy to represent me if I were in their area and needed their assistance. But I don't think they have any members of that firm who work before/in/whatever the SCOTUS.

    But Clements does represent clients before the SCOTUS. So when Clements takes over the case and tells the court they should not remand but should go ahead and decide the case - it really looks to me like Mr. Peruta is sort of telling the court that they are preparing to take this case to the SCOTUS and that it really is wasting time to remand. It is also a sort of warning to the court to pay close attention to the existing SCOTUS rulings because if they don't get it right they are going to have a heavy hitter asking the SCOTUS to slap the Circuit around.

    Interesting moves. I'll be very interested in what happens in the next week or so and also what the circuit does with the case.
    CGN's token life-long teetotaling vegetarian. Don't consider anything I post as advice or as anything more than opinion (if even that).

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    • #17
      Purple K
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      • Dec 2008
      • 3101

      Hmmm.... Maybe a firearms carry case from the left coast will make it to SCOTUS.
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      • #18
        Al Norris
        Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 386

        And OleCuss wins the donut!!

        Like him or not, Paul Clement is the equivalent of bringing out the 16inch Navel Artillery.
        Listings of the Current 2A Cases, over at the Firing Line.

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        • #19
          Crom
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 1619

          Very interesting indeed. Does anyone feel that there could be a chance to win in the 9th here and have that decision confirmed at SCOTUS? Think about it. The 9th circuit in Nordyke IV (2009) incorporated the 2A. They made the leap. They can do this! We could get carry sooner than I originally thought.

          For those that don't know I'd like to point out the Peruta case is funded by CRPAF and the NRA.

          The lawsuit and appeal are being funded by the NRA-CRPA Foundation Legal Action Project (LAP). To fight for the self-defense civil rights of all Californians, the NRA and CRPA Foundation have joined forces. Through LAP, NRA/CRPAF attorneys fight ill-conceived gun control laws and ordinances, educate state and local officials about available programs that are effective in reducing accidents and violence without infringing on the rights of law-abiding gun owners, and produce valid science about game and wildlife resource management.

          To contribute to the NRA/CRPAF Legal Action Project (LAP) and support this and similar efforts and Second Amendment litigation in California, visit
          www.crpafoundation.org and www.nraila.org.

          -Source
          Last edited by Crom; 10-20-2011, 10:13 PM. Reason: Added blurb about funding.

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          • #20
            Connor P Price
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 1897

            Crom, I love your optimism but hoping for a win in the 9th seems overly optimistic does it not? Even if they know they'll get reversed I think they'll punt it up to scotus just because they don't want to be the ones to make that call. It is the ninth after all, what's one more reversal?

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            • #21
              wildhawker
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Nov 2008
              • 14150

              Originally posted by Purple K
              Hmmm.... Maybe a firearms carry case from the left coast will make it to SCOTUS.
              Alan Gura, Don Kilmer, SAF, CGF, fantastic individual plaintiffs, and an artfully-crafted lawsuit that challenges both "good cause" and "good moral character"... yeah, not so worried about the left coast.

              -Brandon
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              • #22
                unusedusername
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 4124

                Originally posted by HowardW56
                I would have loved to be a fly on the wall when the county council received that notice....
                It is very unlikely that the county council is as familiar with nationwide firearms litigation as the folks on this board are. It is very likely that the county council had never heard the name before receiving the filing.

                I would like to be the fly on the wall when they researched who he is though

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                • #23
                  safewaysecurity
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 6166

                  Originally posted by unusedusername
                  It is very unlikely that the county council is as familiar with nationwide firearms litigation as the folks on this board are. It is very likely that the county council had never heard the name before receiving the filing.

                  I would like to be the fly on the wall when they researched who he is though
                  It's very likely that they have heard of him given that he was the former Solicitor General.
                  Originally posted by cudakidd
                  I want Blood for Oil. Heck I want Blood for Oil over hand wringing sentiment!
                  ^

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                  • #24
                    press1280
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 3023

                    I've gotten the impression that if Clement asks for certiorari, he'll get it no matter what..........

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                    • #25
                      Wolverine
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 741

                      Originally posted by press1280
                      I've gotten the impression that if Clement asks for certiorari, he'll get it no matter what..........
                      Among some members of the court, it helps that Clement clerked for Scalia.

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                      • #26
                        PsychGuy274
                        Veteran Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 4289

                        This makes me happy.
                        I am a law enforcement officer in the state of Colorado. Nothing I post is legal advice of any kind.

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                        CLICK HERE to read my research review on the fight-or-flight response and its application to firearm training

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                        • #27
                          HowardW56
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 5901

                          Originally posted by safewaysecurity
                          It's very likely that they have heard of him given that he was the former Solicitor General.
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                          • #28
                            Patrick-2
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 600

                            I'm with Al (and the rest of you): Big Guns. The Court likes the man. He was a good SG even if we did not agree with him all the time.
                            ------
                            Some Guy In Maryland

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                            • #29
                              SantaCabinetguy
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 15137

                              Originally posted by Wolverine
                              Clement clerked for Scalia.
                              I didn't know that. That's somewhat promising.
                              Hauoli Makahiki Hou


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                              • #30
                                Big Ben
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 723

                                Very interesting. It will be interesting to see whether the case gets kicked back down or not.

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