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  • hoffmang
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    • Apr 2006
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    Peruta: Update - Clement enters

    In the last two days, there has been an interesting development. Yesterday, former SG Paul Clement substituted into Peruta (and off of the NRA Amicus if you will.) Today he filed a letter pointing out the impact of AB-144 on the lower court's reasoning.

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    safewaysecurity
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2010
    • 6166

    Clement is a very smart guy. I heard him in the Heller Orals and it was impressive to say the least.
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    I want Blood for Oil. Heck I want Blood for Oil over hand wringing sentiment!
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    • #3
      taperxz
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      • Feb 2010
      • 19395

      CGF is full of fun news today

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      • #4
        Barabas
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 3370

        In brief: Please don't send this back to the District Court.

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        • #5
          Gray Peterson
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2005
          • 5817

          I find this interesting, considering earlier reported comments by Chuck Michel about asking for a remand...Sean and Chris can slap me if I read these reports wrong or the media skewered the meaning...
          Last edited by Gray Peterson; 10-20-2011, 6:32 PM.

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          • #6
            wash
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2007
            • 9011

            I thought he was the "machine guns" guy at Heller.

            He was better at McDonald but still I prefer Alan Gura.

            Is this move going to make it harder for the Judge to pull some lame excuse out of their posterior?

            I thought the original council was doing an adequate job, why is someone pulling these strings?
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              safewaysecurity
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2010
              • 6166

              Originally posted by wash
              I thought he was the "machine guns" guy at Heller.

              He was better at McDonald but still I prefer Alan Gura.

              Is this move going to make it harder for the Judge to pull some lame excuse out of their posterior?

              I thought the original council was doing an adequate job, why is someone pulling these strings?
              Yup he is the machine guns guy. I think he's correct in that regard. I don't like that Gura said the right does not protect "machine guns".
              Originally posted by cudakidd
              I want Blood for Oil. Heck I want Blood for Oil over hand wringing sentiment!
              ^

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              • #8
                Tier One Arms
                Veteran Member
                • Jul 2007
                • 2598

                I agree, the right absolutely protects machine guns, and I would go even farther than that...

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                • #9
                  G60
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 3989

                  Gura said what he needed to say to win.
                  "Any unarmed people are slaves, or are subject to slavery at any given moment." - Dr. Huey P. Newton

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                  • #10
                    SantaCabinetguy
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                    • Feb 2011
                    • 15137

                    the district court placed great emphasis upon its determination that California law does not “restrict[] the open carry of unloaded firearms and ammunition ready for instant loading,"
                    It does now!
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                    • #11
                      The Shadow
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                      • Mar 2010
                      • 3213

                      I'm getting that warm fuzzy feeling.
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                      Godwin's law

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                      • #12
                        chief003
                        Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 172

                        Does this mean that the NRA or some other (important) party thinks this case has significant implications beyond California?
                        We can no longer sit quietly and allow one of America's founding Rights to be marginalized by fear.

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                        • #13
                          HowardW56
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                          • Aug 2003
                          • 5901

                          I would have loved to be a fly on the wall when the county council received that notice....

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                          • #14
                            Connor P Price
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 1897

                            Originally posted by chief003
                            Does this mean that the NRA or some other (important) party thinks this case has significant implications beyond California?
                            It most certainly does have broader implications than just CA.

                            This is pretty interesting, the .gov has backed itself into quite a corner in Peruta. I've got to imagine that they are beginning to see the writing on the wall here.

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                            • #15
                              dantodd
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                              • Aug 2009
                              • 9360

                              Gura isn't an option since this is an "NRA case" now. I don't think BRA would have put Clement on the case if they thought this wasn't a winner at this point. They provably wouldn't have put him on the case if they thought it would flat out win in district or even circuit. My guess is they expect it to win but not until getting to SCOTUS.

                              Will be interesting to see if they support sharing Oral's at SCOTUS with Alan if Richards is "related" since that's what happened with McDonald.
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