CGF Blog: Battered Gun Owner Syndrome and the Fight for the Right to Keep and Bear...

[hoffmang]

A new post today on the CGF Blog:

"Recently I got into a discussion with someone who had moved away from California. He asserted that all the litigation didn't matter and that we as civil rights supporters were not winning and, as usual, we Californians should just leave. I asked him an important question and it should be telling that he didn't answer that question publicly. I asked him how populous his supposed free state was. He privately replied that his new state's population was 3,800,000 (Oregon) and continued to accuse California gun rights supporters of being Baghdad Bob for saying that we're winning. There is no more serious case of Battered Gun Owner Syndrome or lack of understanding of what is actually going on in the US. Because I think this attitude may be a bit too common, I'm compelled to comment on it."

More here.

-Gene

[Ubermcoupe]

You will know when I give up and believe that too when I stop coming here.

Having people with Battered Gun Owner Syndrome dishearten the quiet listening gun owner who shows up or supports these efforts with their pocket book does no one any good.

Please keep up the great works guys. The progress we make (and advertise) here is why I hold out hope!

[Connor P Price]

Gene, you've brilliantly illustrated the importance of the California movement. The idea that the constitutional minimum will be set by the most anti-gun states (arguably most influenced by California) is important not to lose sight of. That's why I'm always so amazed and proud when we have Calgunners from other states, or those who leave to other states but continue to support CGF. Those people get it. They understand the importance of the fight in California on a national level.

[Dreaded Claymore]

Gene, you've brilliantly illustrated the importance of the California movement. The idea that the constitutional minimum will be set by the most anti-gun states (arguably most influenced by California) is important not to lose sight of. That's why I'm always so amazed and proud when we have Calgunners from other states, or those who leave to other states but continue to support CGF. Those people get it. They understand the importance of the fight in California on a national level.

Someone else beat me to it, as usual. What he said. Thank you, Gene, for explaining that the "what civil rights do blacks have?" Constitutional minimum wasn't set in Massachusetts and the weapon civil rights Constitutional minimum won't be set in Oregon.

[G60]

I think something else should be said for one of my biggest peeves from out of staters, I'll paraphrase, "well it's your fault since you live in California and let anti gun politicians get elected in the first place, all you have to do is vote them out or leave"

[trashman]

Nice post, Gene - captures why it's important for gunnies to continue to 'dole out hope' -

--Neill

[yellowfin]

You should see the putrid flavors of BGOS that occur in NY.

[SwissFluCase]

Gene,

I think you made the point as clear as anyone could have. I have been saying the same thing for years. Gun rights will be born out of the most restrictive states; why would the battle even need to be fought in Arizona?

I think there is a certain segment of gun owners that like to play the underdog, or the oppressed. They remind me a bit of the Al Sharpton followers. No matter what you do, "The Man" has his boot on your neck.

I have lived in California all my life. I have been all over the US and quite frankly, I like it better here. California is worth fighting for. I fully expect the residents of NYC, Chicago, MA, DC, and Hawaii to feel the same way. I am not ditching my friends, walking out on my business, and turning my life upside down so I can live in a state where my 2nd Amendment rights haven't been restricted *yet*.

I am not moving. Let the anti-gun people move out of California if they don't line guns. I hear Oregon is nice...

Finally, I am sick of the weak and cowardly loudly denouncing California gun owners because they won't move. What have they done to further 2nd Amendment rights? Give money? Make calls? Teach people to shoot? Hello? I have a suggestion to them: Get out of our state, we don't want you here. Goodbye.

Gene, thank you again, and I will thank the rest of the team and the "right people" again, for fighting for our rights. I am behind you 100%, along with many others.

Regards,


SwissFluCase

[HowardW56]

A new post today on the CGF Blog:

"Recently I got into a discussion with someone who had moved away from California. He asserted that all the litigation didn't matter and that we as civil rights supporters were not winning and, as usual, we Californians should just leave. I asked him an important question and it should be telling that he didn't answer that question publicly. I asked him how populous his supposed free state was. He privately replied that his new state's population was 3,800,000 (Oregon) and continued to accuse California gun rights supporters of being Baghdad Bob for saying that we're winning. There is no more serious case of Battered Gun Owner Syndrome or lack of understanding of what is actually going on in the US. Because I think this attitude may be a bit too common, I'm compelled to comment on it."

More here.

-Gene

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[goober]

An extremely important point, exceedingly well stated. Thank you, Gene.

[microwaveguy]

Thanks Gene

This is the reason that I donate to CGF for their awesome work

I am pretty sure of whom you had the exchange, since I have had the same exchange with him on a different board ........ the Baghdad Bob comment gave it away. What these people don't remember is the 1994 AWB was created because of the CA ban. A line in the sand has to be drawn and someone needs to stay here and clean up this mess

[odysseus]

Great writeup and argument!

[oepirate]

Thank you so much. As someone currently visiting a state with significantly less restrictive gun laws I could get the idea to want to move. Things like this remind me that no, in fact, I in it for long haul to win for California, and maybe the country as a whole. Off to the donate page for me...

[Tack]

Gene, without Calguns, California would have the de facto gun ban of New Jersey. Both are may issue. We need to fight it here and win.