Deadline looming...

[wildhawker]

Bad,

Nothing in the law compels me to give up my right to speak because of association. Sorry that you feel the way you do, but please allow me to be clear: I'll not be waiving my right to speak, assemble, publish, or protest because I happen to have a volunteer gig I don't get paid to do.

-Brandon

[hoffmang]

Some might consider that kind of activity a conflict of interest. I happen to be one of them.

As, for example, a member of the CRPA board of directors who can and do advocate for and against candidates - I am quite confident that having the lesser of two evils (and maybe not even an evil, the next 36 hours will be fun) be the person wielding the veto pen.

You're "concern" doesn't even make logical sense unless you somehow think we'd be better with Meg.

-Gene

[Paul S]

Be prepared...

Do not be blindsided if/when the Governor allows them to become law without his signature. He is after all Gerald Brown and he remains a liberal at his core.
We'll just have to see how it all unfolds.

[SwissFluCase]

If these were bills he actually believed in he would have signed them already so he could get good press.

He could just let them become law with no comment, while it makes the bills law, he isn't standing around cheering them.

OTOH, if he waits till Sunday evening, the bills become monday's news.

Weekends tend to be slow on news, weekdays are busy on news so the news worthiness of vetos gun bills would have a low priority.

Nicki

He is going through the bills by topic. My guess is he will announce the guns bills with a whole bunch of other penal related stuff.

He just did another batch in the last two hours (education).

Regards,


SwissFluCase

[Don29palms]

Jerry Brown is a worthless demonrat POS! And yes Meg Whitman would have been far worse. This state is becoming more communist every day. With all the welfare trash, border jumpers and entitled unemployed if you have a job in this state you are a minority. I'll be so very glad when my sentence is up in this gulag named Kalifornia!

[dantodd]

Jerry Brown is a worthless demonrat POS! And yes Meg Whitman would have been far worse. This state is becoming more communist every day. With all the welfare trash, border jumpers and entitled unemployed if you have a job in this state you are a minority. I'll be so very glad when my sentence is up in this gulag named Kalifornia!

If you hate being here so much and you have no faith in our efforts why do you continue to post your hateful partisan opinions here where they are not particularly appreciated and do not represent even a small minority of the people here? Calling people names and other such derogatory statements do nothing to help us win over the majority of the legislature and state who happen to be democrats. It also only drives away others who mig be democrats and want to participate here.


If I have to choose between democrats who want to help us and people like you who are non-supportive, have no interest in staying here and see their time in California as a jail sentence I choose the democrats who are helpful.

[Wrangler John]

Speaking as a gun owner and not on CGF's behalf, I'm quite confident that today we have a whole lot more hope in the veto pen of Mr. Brown than Mrs. Whitman. Anyone who thinks differently about that hasn't really reflected on Mrs. Whitman.

-Gene

I reflected on Mrs. Whitman, and came to the conclusion that we would be better off defeating her. Firearms freedom was not the major issue to me, rather it was making the statement to the California Republican Party that candidates should reflect the ideals of Republicanism. About.com defines Republicanism thus:

"Republicanism is the ideology embraced by members of a republic -- a form of government in which leaders are elected for a specific period by the preponderance of the citizenry, and laws are passed by leaders for the benefit of the entire republic, rather than a select aristocracy. In an ideal republic, leaders are selected from among the working citizenry, serve the republic for a defined period, then return to their work, never to serve again.

"Republicanism stresses several key concepts; notably, the importance of civic virtue, the benefits of universal political participation, the dangers of corruption, the need for separate powers and a healthy reverence for the rule of law.

"From these concepts, one paramount value stands apart -- political liberty. For Republicans, political liberty entails not only freedom from government interference in private affairs, it also places great emphasis on self-discipline and self-reliance. Political liberty keeps government out of individuals' lives (unless to do this threatens the republic as a whole), it also prevents the government from becoming a guardian to its individuals. The role of government in a republic is to safeguard the collective republic."

If Jerry Brown is anathema to those ideals, he is never the less, not guilty of being a member of the elite aristocracy attempting to purchase high office as play thing. We can no longer reward RINO's and charlatans posing as populists, such as Schwarzenegger, but demand candidates embodying virtue especially personal integrity. Meg lacked that character, while Brown is true to his ideology that has become tempered with age and experience.

Win or lose, we will ultimately triumph, as the political and socioeconomic climate is changing dramatically.

[eville]

I don't care what the **** moonbeam does.
I'm grateful we have the right people working for us. Thanks to gene, Brandon and everyone else for all you do.

[Quser.619]

I didn't vote for Brown & will be pleasantly surprised if he veto's the Bills. I agree that Meg wasn't even close to be an ideal candidate. In fact Tom McClintock has an article/speech on RCP, here, warning the nation not to do what California has done. Regardless of your views on McClintock, he makes valid points & gives a dire warning.

But Gene, your point cuts both ways. If Brown doesn't veto the bills, then votes were wasted in favor of someone that's fully indebted to public unions & a political party that supports those politicians who are creating these unconstitutional laws we all fear.

I don't doubt for a minute that we'll eventually prevail to over-turn or out-smart our opponents, unless one of the SCOTUS five retires & Obama gets to appointment a replacement.

[Tier One Arms]

I check the forum once an hour to see if he has vetoed, I hope he acts soon.

[Dark Mod]

Id rather have Meg, If were not going to have gun rights with either candidate id settle for not having the dream act

[MolonLabe2008]

Id rather have Meg, If were not going to have gun rights with either candidate id settle for not having the dream act

.....This^

[MolonLabe2008]

Because it makes no substantive difference upon which day he acts before Midnight Sunday night. Also, he may not wish the top stories to be about his action on gun bills. That cuts neither way, pro or anti civil rights.

-Gene

So, what you are saying is that Jerry Brown is a ****ing coward!

[MolonLabe2008]

During the 2010 midterm elections, the entire nation went Republican except for California. It went more Democrat.

The Democrats have had control of the California's state legislature for decades and now they have a super majority.

If these stupid Democrats wouldn't create asinine bills and pass them in their Democrat controlled committees, then we wouldn't have to rely on a stupid governor to veto such asinine bills.

Do you get the picture folks! Well, do ya?

[HowardW56]

So, what you are saying is that Jerry Brown is a ****ing coward!

What he is saying is that Governor Brown is politically astute...