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Handgun Roster exemption - do NOT do single-shot revolvers!
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Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.
Originally posted by Erion929 -
Let's say you want to bring in an off-list *snubbie* revolver. It doesn't make the 7.5" length cutoff for single action revolvers.
What do you do?
Answer: you take the stock cylinder out. You find the same kind of cylinder that's either junky in some way (rust issues?) or was kaboomed in another gun. Two or three chambers of the latter are blown the hell up. Fine. Take a Dremel, modify the cylinder so there's just one chamber.
Bolt it into the gun. Boom. Single-shot conversion. Ship the original good cylinder later.
This is the only way to bring in an off-list micro-type wheelgun...
WRONG. PLEASE STOP. DO NOT PASS GO...
The 12133PC exemption for single shot pistols has WORSE dimensional requirements (6"/10.5") than for single-action revolvers (3"/7.5").
So you're jumping from the frying pan to the fire.
Snubby revolvers somehow need lenghthening thru barrel extension, which is difficult costly or near-impossible (i.e, not worth the value proposition).
This warning I posted furthermore is that a blocked cylinder that still rotates may well allow the gun to still be considered a revolver - esp as we have the Ruger Hawkeye nonrevolver establishing a bit of a standard for a nonrevolver (albeit already single-action).
Nobody knows how this might be perceived via expert testimony. By contrast single-action revolver conversion has a factory exemplar (S&W model 14-3) and documentation of single-action functionality. And single-shot pistols have topological brethren in various configurations too.
If a revolver needs to turn into a single shot pistol it will require lockwork changes to not rotate the cylinder plus some kinda single-shot mangled cylinder. Spare cylinders to mangle are expensive, and the gun must be safe to shoot - installation of a new cylinder often requires gunsmith fitment to ensure proper chamber/bore alignment. THIS IS NONTRIVIAL WORK.
All the existing Roster exemption recipes are tried and true and thought out, and people who don't know WTF they're talking about are adding risk to the situation, for no good reason anyway. If you have a pistol, single-shot it and make it dimensionally compliant before and thru DROS. If you have a revolver, ensure it's dimensionally compliant and convert it to single-action before and thru DROS. Snubby revolvers are gonna be a problem without a barrel insert/swap.Last edited by bwiese; 08-09-2011, 8:22 AM.
Bill Wiese
San Jose, CA
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To clear up Monk's confusion. Once the pistol/revolver is legally transferred to you (DROS), you can do whatever you want to the gun.
What we don't want people to do is mix up their exemptions and leave a lot of illegal transfers in some poor FFL's books.Comment
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I will add: if you are being asked by an 'authority' about the nature of timing and style of the Roster exemption status of your gun, please say nothing and contact CGF.
Bill Wiese
San Jose, CA
CGF Board Member / NRA Benefactor Life Member / CRPA life member
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No postings of mine here, unless otherwise specifically noted, are
to be construed as formal or informal positions of the Calguns.Net
ownership, The Calguns Foundation, Inc. ("CGF"), the NRA, or my
employer. No posts of mine on Calguns are to be construed as
legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.Comment
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