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  • #16
    jwkincal
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 1605

    A wonderful investment... firearms suffer almost no depreciation in value, they are lasting works of art/craftsmanship, have practical utility, historical relevance, cultural significance... man, you should by 100!
    Get the hell off the beach. Get up and get moving. Follow Me! --Aubrey Newman, Col, 24th INF; at the Battle of Leyte

    Certainty of death... small chance of success... what are we waiting for? --Gimli, son of Gloin; on attacking the vast army of Mordor

    Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God!
    I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
    --Patrick Henry; Virginia, 1775

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    • #17
      DocSkinner
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2005
      • 1225

      Great guns - and I have the 1894 in .45 Colt. With some good HD rounds (and non-cowboy compliant sights), it would make a good HD gun - 10+1 just like any AR style I can have.
      Just wish they made them in some of the newer super magnum pistol calibers (The new Ruger and S&W cartrdiges). A .500S&W (or say, .454 Casull) 1894 would be one hell of a brush gun!
      "If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature,
      but by our institutions, great is our sin."
      -- Charles Darwin

      NRA Life, CRPA Life, SASS Life, NRA Certified Pistol Instructor & Range Safety Officer, FSC Instructor

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      • #18
        biker777
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 1408

        Originally posted by 3GunFunShooter
        Only legal for 2 more weeks!! LOL! Then DOJ will ban them!

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        • #19
          WoodTurner
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Apr 2010
          • 286

          Originally posted by Left Coast Conservative
          Tubular magazines are also specifically exempted.
          Shh! We dont want the media talking about the lever action 'loop hole'

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          • #20
            jwkincal
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 1605

            Originally posted by DocSkinner
            Great guns - and I have the 1894 in .45 Colt. With some good HD rounds (and non-cowboy compliant sights), it would make a good HD gun - 10+1 just like any AR style I can have.
            Just wish they made them in some of the newer super magnum pistol calibers (The new Ruger and S&W cartrdiges). A .500S&W (or say, .454 Casull) 1894 would be one hell of a brush gun!
            Rossi makes them in .454 Casull
            Get the hell off the beach. Get up and get moving. Follow Me! --Aubrey Newman, Col, 24th INF; at the Battle of Leyte

            Certainty of death... small chance of success... what are we waiting for? --Gimli, son of Gloin; on attacking the vast army of Mordor

            Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God!
            I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
            --Patrick Henry; Virginia, 1775

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            • #21
              Paladin
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Dec 2005
              • 12376

              Originally posted by WoodTurner
              Shh! We dont want the media talking about the lever action 'loop hole'

              That's that thing that goes down and let's John Wayne spin them around, right?
              240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives.

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              • #22
                NorCal Mtn Flyer
                Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 135

                Originally posted by DocSkinner
                Great guns - and I have the 1894 in .45 Colt. With some good HD rounds (and non-cowboy compliant sights), it would make a good HD gun - 10+1 just like any AR style I can have.
                Just wish they made them in some of the newer super magnum pistol calibers (The new Ruger and S&W cartrdiges). A .500S&W (or say, .454 Casull) 1894 would be one hell of a brush gun!
                Or you could just get a Marlin 1895GG or GS, in an 18.5" barrel. It's a 45-70, and if you are pushing 405gr of lead downrange, it makes an awesome brush gun. Makes for some great bear repellent up here in AK... Put a red dot on it, and it makes things quick and easy...

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                • #23
                  MasterYong
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 2724

                  Originally posted by NotEnufGarage
                  I sure hope so. I own two.

                  Why would you think not?
                  It starts like this.


                  12000. This chapter shall be known and may be cited as "The
                  Dangerous Weapons Control Law."



                  12001. (a) (1) As used in this title, the terms "pistol,"
                  "revolver," and "firearm capable of being concealed upon the person"
                  shall apply to and include any device designed to be used as a
                  weapon, from which is expelled a projectile by the force of any
                  explosion, or other form of combustion, and that has a barrel less
                  than 16 inches in length. These terms also include any device that
                  has a barrel 16 inches or more in length which is designed to be
                  interchanged with a barrel less than 16 inches in length.
                  (2) As used in this title, the term "handgun" means any "pistol,"
                  "revolver," or "firearm capable of being concealed upon the person."
                  (b) As used in this title, "firearm" means any device, designed to
                  be used as a weapon, from which is expelled through a barrel, a
                  projectile by the force of any explosion or other form of combustion.
                  (c) As used in Sections 12021, 12021.1, 12070, 12071, 12072,
                  12073, 12078, 12101, and 12801 of this code, and Sections 8100, 8101,
                  and 8103 of the Welfare and Institutions Code, the term "firearm"
                  includes the frame or receiver of the weapon.
                  (d) For the purposes of Sections 12025 and 12031, the term
                  "firearm" also shall include any rocket, rocket propelled projectile
                  launcher, or similar device containing any explosive or incendiary
                  material whether or not the device is designed for emergency or
                  distress signaling purposes.
                  (e) For purposes of Sections 12070, 12071, and paragraph (8) of
                  subdivision (a), and subdivisions (b), (c), (d), and (f) of Section
                  12072, the term "firearm" does not include an unloaded firearm that
                  is defined as an "antique firearm" in Section 921(a)(16) of Title 18
                  of the United States Code.
                  (f) Nothing shall prevent a device defined as a "handgun,"
                  "pistol," "revolver," or "firearm capable of being concealed upon the
                  person" from also being found to be a short-barreled shotgun or a
                  short-barreled rifle, as defined in Section 12020.
                  (g) For purposes of Sections 12551 and 12552, the term "BB device"
                  means any instrument that expels a projectile, such as a BB or a
                  pellet, not exceeding 6mm caliber, through the force of air pressure,
                  gas pressure, or spring action, or any spot marker gun.
                  (h) As used in this title, "wholesaler" means any person who is
                  licensed as a dealer pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section
                  921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued
                  pursuant thereto who sells, transfers, or assigns firearms, or parts
                  of firearms, to persons who are licensed as manufacturers,
                  importers, or gunsmiths pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with
                  Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code, or persons
                  licensed pursuant to Section 12071, and includes persons who receive
                  finished parts of firearms and assemble them into completed or
                  partially completed firearms in furtherance of that purpose.
                  "Wholesaler" shall not include a manufacturer, importer, or
                  gunsmith who is licensed to engage in those activities pursuant to
                  Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United
                  States Code or a person licensed pursuant to Section 12071 and the
                  regulations issued pursuant thereto. A wholesaler also does not
                  include those persons dealing exclusively in grips, stocks, and other
                  parts of firearms that are not frames or receivers thereof.
                  (i) As used in Section 12071 or 12072, "application to purchase"
                  means any of the following:
                  (1) The initial completion of the register by the purchaser,
                  transferee, or person being loaned the firearm as required by
                  subdivision (b) of Section 12076.
                  (2) The initial completion and transmission to the department of
                  the record of electronic or telephonic transfer by the dealer on the
                  purchaser, transferee, or person being loaned the firearm as required
                  by subdivision (c) of Section 12076.
                  (j) For purposes of Section 12023, a firearm shall be deemed to be
                  "loaded" whenever both the firearm and the unexpended ammunition
                  capable of being discharged from the firearm are in the immediate
                  possession of the same person.
                  (k) For purposes of Sections 12021, 12021.1, 12025, 12070, 12072,
                  12073, 12078, 12101, and 12801 of this code, and Sections 8100, 8101,
                  and 8103 of the Welfare and Institutions Code, notwithstanding the
                  fact that the term "any firearm" may be used in those sections, each
                  firearm or the frame or receiver of the same shall constitute a
                  distinct and separate offense under those sections.
                  (l) For purposes of Section 12020, a violation of that section as
                  to each firearm, weapon, or device enumerated therein shall
                  constitute a distinct and separate offense.
                  (m) Each application that requires any firearms eligibility
                  determination involving the issuance of any license, permit, or
                  certificate pursuant to this title shall include two copies of the
                  applicant's fingerprints on forms prescribed by the Department of
                  Justice. One copy of the fingerprints may be submitted to the United
                  States Federal Bureau of Investigation.
                  (n) As used in this chapter, a "personal handgun importer" means
                  an individual who meets all of the following criteria:
                  (1) He or she is not a person licensed pursuant to Section 12071.
                  (2) He or she is not a licensed manufacturer of firearms pursuant
                  to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United
                  States Code.
                  (3) He or she is not a licensed importer of firearms pursuant to
                  Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United
                  States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto.
                  (4) He or she is the owner of a handgun.
                  (5) He or she acquired that handgun outside of California.
                  (6) He or she moves into this state on or after January 1, 1998,
                  as a resident of this state.
                  (7) He or she intends to possess that handgun within this state on
                  or after January 1, 1998.
                  (8) The handgun was not delivered to him or her by a person
                  licensed pursuant to Section 12071 who delivered that firearm
                  following the procedures set forth in Section 12071 and subdivision
                  (c) of Section 12072.
                  (9) He or she, while a resident of this state, had not previously
                  reported his or her ownership of that handgun to the Department of
                  Justice in a manner prescribed by the department that included
                  information concerning him or her and a description of the firearm.
                  (10) The handgun is not a firearm that is prohibited by
                  subdivision (a) of Section 12020.
                  (11) The handgun is not an assault weapon, as defined in Section
                  12276 or 12276.1.
                  (12) The handgun is not a machinegun, as defined in Section 12200.
                  (13) The person is 18 years of age or older.
                  (o) For purposes of paragraph (6) of subdivision (n):
                  (1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), residency shall be
                  determined in the same manner as is the case for establishing
                  residency pursuant to Section 12505 of the Vehicle Code.
                  (2) In the case of members of the Armed Forces of the United
                  States, residency shall be deemed to be established when he or she
                  was discharged from active service in this state.
                  (p) As used in this code, "basic firearms safety certificate"
                  means a certificate issued by the Department of Justice pursuant to
                  Article 8 (commencing with Section 12800) of Chapter 6 of Title 2 of
                  Part 4, prior to January 1, 2003.
                  (q) As used in this code, "handgun safety certificate" means a
                  certificate issued by the Department of Justice pursuant to Article 8
                  (commencing with Section 12800) of Chapter 6 of Title 2 of Part 4,
                  as that article is operative on or after January 1, 2003.
                  (r) As used in this title, "gunsmith" means any person who is
                  licensed as a dealer pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section
                  921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued
                  pursuant thereto, who is engaged primarily in the business of
                  repairing firearms, or making or fitting special barrels, stocks, or
                  trigger mechanisms to firearms, or the agent or employee of that
                  person.
                  (s) As used in this title, "consultant-evaluator" means a
                  consultant or evaluator who, in the course of his or her profession
                  is loaned firearms from a person licensed pursuant to Chapter 44
                  (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code
                  and the regulations issued pursuant thereto, for his or her research
                  or evaluation, and has a current certificate of eligibility issued to
                  him or her pursuant to Section 12071.



                  12001.1. (a) Any person in this state who commercially manufactures
                  or causes to be commercially manufactured, or who knowingly imports
                  into the state for commercial sale, or who knowingly exports out of
                  this state for commercial, dealer, wholesaler, or distributor sale,
                  or who keeps for commercial sale, or offers or exposes for
                  commercial, dealer, wholesaler, or distributor sale, any undetectable
                  knife is guilty of a misdemeanor. As used in this section, an
                  "undetectable knife" means any knife or other instrument with or
                  without a handguard that is capable of ready use as a stabbing weapon
                  that may inflict great bodily injury or death that is commercially
                  manufactured to be used as a weapon and is not detectable by a metal
                  detector or magnetometer, either handheld or otherwise, that is set
                  at standard calibration.
                  (b) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, commencing January
                  1, 2000, all knives or other instrument with or without a handguard
                  that is capable of ready use as a stabbing weapon that may inflict
                  great bodily injury or death that are commercially manufactured in
                  this state that utilize materials that are not detectable by a metal
                  detector or magnetometer, shall be manufactured to include materials
                  that will ensure they are detectable by a metal detector or
                  magnetometer, either handheld or otherwise, that is set at standard
                  calibration.
                  (c) This section shall not apply to the manufacture or importation
                  of undetectable knives for sale to a law enforcement or military
                  entity with a valid agency, department, or unit purchase order, nor
                  shall this section apply to the subsequent sale of these knives to a
                  law enforcement or military entity.
                  (d) This section shall not apply to the manufacture or importation
                  of undetectable knives for sale to federal, state, and local
                  historical societies, museums, and institutional collections which
                  are open to the public, provided that the undetectable knives are
                  properly housed and secured from unauthorized handling, nor shall
                  this section apply to the subsequent sale of the knives to these
                  societies, museums, and collections.



                  12001.5. Except as expressly provided in Section 12020, and solely
                  in accordance with Section 12020, no person may manufacture, import
                  into this state, keep for sale, offer for sale, give, lend, or
                  possess any short-barreled shotgun or short-barreled rifle, as
                  defined in Section 12020, and nothing else in this chapter shall be
                  construed as authorizing the manufacture, importation into the state,
                  keeping for sale, offering for sale, or giving, lending, or
                  possession of any short-barreled shotgun or short-barreled rifle, as
                  defined in Section 12020.


                  12001.6. As used in this chapter, an offense which involves the
                  violent use of a firearm includes any of the following:
                  (a) A violation of paragraph (2) or (3) of subdivision (a) of
                  Section 245 or a violation of subdivision (d) of Section 245.
                  (b) A violation of Section 246.
                  (c) A violation of paragraph (2) of subdivision (a) of Section
                  417.
                  (d) A violation of subdivision (c) of Section 417.

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                  • #24
                    Librarian
                    Admin and Poltergeist
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 44626

                    Originally posted by MasterYong
                    It starts like this.

                    [Dangerous Weapons Control Law .. ]

                    etc etc etc
                    And it was written by the California Legislature, which has no idea what it's talking about -- as we well know.

                    OP, your original question was incomplete (but has been amplified in later posts, and answered).

                    As the Q has been answered, closed. (And I hope you were not typing just now, MasterYong!)
                    ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                    Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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