Is Obama REALLY Pro 2A?

[Spetsnazos]

Executive orders can do a lot of things, so can appointees, etc. The (D) next to his name is for deceitful.

Did you eat lead paint chips when you were a kid?

so what has he done so far that is anti 2A

[PsychGuy274]

You don't know the meaning of trolling. I am trying to be civil but you keep asking the same thing and trying to start useless panic.

I am telling you that everyone can go home and sleep knowing guns arent going to be taken away because Obama has WAY WAY WAY bigger problems to worry about. Instead, you want to create hysteria which drives up ammo and gun prices.

If anything, you're the one trolling.

you don't seem to understand that you're talking about something that's completely different from the topic of THIS THREAD. This thread is about Whether or not Obama is pro 2A." You're answering questions as if the thread was about "What should Obama be worrying about right now."

This is what people mean when they say you're lacking reading comprehension skills.

Executive orders can do a lot of things, so can appointees, etc. The (D) next to his name is for deceitful.

Did you eat lead paint chips when you were a kid?

Oh please, Republicans are just as deceitful and pathetic as Democrats. You need to learn that it's not what letter is next to their name, it's the brain in their skull. They're politicians and they're ALL rats.

[ZombieTactics]

Sounds like what you did when I asked you what exactly Hitler said to the jews that was so praiseful to them.

The problem with making a claim like this is that people can look up your comments and note that nowhere did you ask me "what exactly Hitler said to the jews that was so praiseful to them". The closest you came to anything like this is the simple one-word question "when?", which I answered directly.

Given that you've demonstrated that you can't adequately remember your own words of less than a day ago, it's probably futile to discuss the history of several decades ago with you.

[Interfan]

so what has he done so far that is anti 2A

Obama appointed Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton, Bill Daley and Rahm Emanuel as key advisors who have a very strong anti-2A history. Joe Biden was one of the authors of the 1994 AWB, and has advocated a new ban as well. He nominated Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan to the U.S. Supreme Court. Both are bad choices for 2A rights. Now he just nominated Andrew Traver to head the BATFE. He also has made his position on AWB clear several times, but has not taken a firm stand due to his lack of backbone and integrity.

If Obama is so pro-2A, why would he surround himself with these people? Presidents tend to pick like minded advisors, so his opinions are clear by the company he keeps. Why would he consistently make statements about "getting guns off the streets" (His own book, for example)?

I think that you need to understand that this administration does not respect or defend the constitution as a whole, much less the second ammendment. They will soften their language depending on polling results, but the undercurrent is there and will be there.

Executive orders can be a dangerous situation. Obama can bypass Congress, where he has no support for any new restrictions, and declare that "guns are a threat to national security" and use some premise like the Mexican cartels as the reason for this.

Democrats aren't the problem. There are many hard working Democrats in congress who have respect for the constitution and are pro-2A (look at what Harry Reid has done to keep BLM land and public shooting ranges open in Nevada). Obama, Clinton, Biden, Pelosi, Feinstein, Boxer, etc. are the problem.

When a president takes an oath of office, he declares that he will "...uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States..." The oath of office doesn't say "...uphold and defend whatever parts or interpretation of the Constitution that is currently popular or you personally agree with..."

[Milsurp Collector]

That's a great link! Because it eventually led to another link about some Texas college champion sharpshooters who said:

Obama shoots rifles with the Secret Service!

lol

From the Ft. Worth Press-Telegram:

And there was another surprise for the president -- team member Simone Riford, 22, of Hawaii graduated from Obama's Honolulu high school -- and was wearing her class ring to prove it.

"I showed him my ring," she said, and they spoke about Hawaii and Punahou High School.

And, surprisingly, Obama told the TCU team members that he, too, practiced shooting with a rifle. "He said he practiced with the Secret Service," said Riford, who graduated from TCU in May and now works in Fort Worth.

"It was sweet," said Morrissey. "It was way more than we expected."

Oh, man. Calgunners are NOT going to believe this story. lol

While I don't believe President Obama is a gun enthusiast, here is confirmation that he was at the Secret Service's range:



Monday, May. 17, 2010
Hitting Their Mark
President Barack Obama looks down the shooting range through binoculars as he tours the Secret Service's James J. Rowley Training Center in Beltsville, Maryland.

[PsychGuy274]

While I don't believe President Obama is a gun enthusiast, here is confirmation that he was at the Secret Service's range:



Monday, May. 17, 2010
Hitting Their Mark
President Barack Obama looks down the shooting range through binoculars as he tours the Secret Service's James J. Rowley Training Center in Beltsville, Maryland.

That range looks awesome.

[Glock22Fan]

While I don't believe President Obama is a gun enthusiast, here is confirmation that he was at the Secret Service's range:



Monday, May. 17, 2010
Hitting Their Mark
President Barack Obama looks down the shooting range through binoculars as he tours the Secret Service's James J. Rowley Training Center in Beltsville, Maryland.

At first sight, I thought he was that tiny figure down at the other end.

Color me disappointed.

[Python2]

Heh, tht pix dont say anything that would convince me. When I see pig start flying, maybe.

[HBrebel]

Lies, all lies!!! The man may seem like he means well, that he wants to "save" America but his agenda since even before he got started in his political career has always been socialist. We that know history all know what socialism leads to. America was not meant to be a nation of sheep that follow rules dictated to them by elite leftists. The majority of Americans dislike Obama and his scemes, although the media would have you think otherwise. The man is just a puppet anyway. look beyond the president, there are greater forces at work here. We the people hold the power.

[ShooterDK]

I'm on your side!

But I was forced against it!

Hope and change!

We can do it!

[Spetsnazos]

While I don't believe President Obama is a gun enthusiast, here is confirmation that he was at the Secret Service's range:



Monday, May. 17, 2010
Hitting Their Mark
President Barack Obama looks down the shooting range through binoculars as he tours the Secret Service's James J. Rowley Training Center in Beltsville, Maryland.

That's an awesome pic and an AWESOME range!!! Id love to shoot at that range!

[glockfu]

I guess only time will tell...

[Inquirer]

The problem with making a claim like this is that people can look up your comments and note that nowhere did you ask me "what exactly Hitler said to the jews that was so praiseful to them". The closest you came to anything like this is the simple one-word question "when?", which I answered directly.

Given that you've demonstrated that you can't adequately remember your own words of less than a day ago, it's probably futile to discuss the history of several decades ago with you.

Great, so now you're saying it's beneath you to prove your point simply because I didn't use specific enough verbiage, instead of merely procuring a quote of Hitler praising the jews and ending the discussion.

You sir are a charlatan, to use parlance more in keeping with civility.

If you're telling the truth, come up with a quote of Hitler's praising the Jews. Until then, try not to stoop to insulting my intellect to try to support your facile and inflammatory argument.