RFID for permenant emplacement in guns

[The Cable Guy]

How about this... Put an RFID device activated solenoid on the Mag release button. Then a ring on your finger with the RFID chip. If you do not have the ring (tool in this case) the mag release can not be activated. The ring acts as the tool, without the tool located within inches of the RFID reader (Mag release button in this case) you can not release the Mag.

Sorry, but did everyone else just ignore this ridiculous idea? Why would any private citizen want this? Or anyone for that matter.

If you lose the "ring" you're defenseless. What if a crackhead cuts or shoots your finger off? You'd be dead.

[POLICESTATE]

Sorry, but did everyone else just ignore this ridiculous idea? Why would any private citizen want this? Or anyone for that matter.

If you lose the "ring" you're defenseless. What if a crackhead cuts or shoots your finger off? You'd be dead.

The gun grabbers would love this idea. If a gun is stolen without "the ring" then it's useless. Wait a minute, I'm sure I've heard of this concept before...

[wash]

There are systems that use magnet rings but I think the intent of that post was a work around for "assault weapon" laws that require fixed magazines that can only be removed with the use of a tool.

[OleCuss]

Sorry, but did everyone else just ignore this ridiculous idea? Why would any private citizen want this? Or anyone for that matter.

If you lose the "ring" you're defenseless. What if a crackhead cuts or shoots your finger off? You'd be dead.

Maybe I've lost my mind, but I don't find it to be totally ridiculous.

There is something to be said for a system where if you fail to retain the weapon it can't be used against you. If you can make the system sufficiently robust, then you would have a firearm which would work for you every time and for no one else - kinda nice if you are going to be in a crowd or other situation where retention could be a problem.

I've never before seen a "smart gun" system that I would trust (and frankly I don't think this one could be made sufficiently robust to suit me), but at least this one could work if one were wearing gloves, if it was raining, if you got mud all over your firearm, etc.

You make a truly robust "smart gun" which I know will fire for me every time and for no one else - I'll likely go out of my way to get one or more for everyone in my family. They wouldn't be my only guns. . .

I suspect, however, that there will be significant technical problems with developing RFID "smart guns". Everything from shooting one-handed using the hand which doesn't have the RFID capability, to the fact that a lot of RFID's don't seem to last much more than about 7 years. Also, cold temperatures can be a bit of a problem for electronic equipment - and a lack of function in the cold can be a big problem.

So I don't anticipate every being able to get a good RFID "smart gun" but I like the idea.

But if one thinks about it, getting your own RFID or (preferably) a pinger, would have serious benefits in some situations. Just like most things - a horrible evil if mis-used but a great good if properly exploited.

[POLICESTATE]

RFID is not the way to go in making a smart gun, RFID is extremely hackable. Think what a criminal at a gun range could do with a reader device, just to get started.

Biometric would be the way to go and RFID is not biometric by a long shot.

Maybe I've lost my mind, but I don't find it to be totally ridiculous.

There is something to be said for a system where if you fail to retain the weapon it can't be used against you. If you can make the system sufficiently robust, then you would have a firearm which would work for you every time and for no one else - kinda nice if you are going to be in a crowd or other situation where retention could be a problem.

I've never before seen a "smart gun" system that I would trust (and frankly I don't think this one could be made sufficiently robust to suit me), but at least this one could work if one were wearing gloves, if it was raining, if you got mud all over your firearm, etc.

You make a truly robust "smart gun" which I know will fire for me every time and for no one else - I'll likely go out of my way to get one or more for everyone in my family. They wouldn't be my only guns. . .

I suspect, however, that there will be significant technical problems with developing RFID "smart guns". Everything from shooting one-handed using the hand which doesn't have the RFID capability, to the fact that a lot of RFID's don't seem to last much more than about 7 years. Also, cold temperatures can be a bit of a problem for electronic equipment - and a lack of function in the cold can be a big problem.

So I don't anticipate every being able to get a good RFID "smart gun" but I like the idea.

But if one thinks about it, getting your own RFID or (preferably) a pinger, would have serious benefits in some situations. Just like most things - a horrible evil if mis-used but a great good if properly exploited.

[MaHoTex]

Sorry, but did everyone else just ignore this ridiculous idea? Why would any private citizen want this? Or anyone for that matter.

If you lose the "ring" you're defenseless. What if a crackhead cuts or shoots your finger off? You'd be dead.

Hmm... Ok... Actually the thought is for the purpose of a replacement for the bullet button. Maybe a band on the wrist, card around your neck, something you wear on your belt. Does not have to be a ring per so.

The thought was more for target shooting at the range that 99% of us use our rifles for 99.9% of the time. But hey, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

[MaHoTex]

There are systems that use magnet rings but I think the intent of that post was a work around for "assault weapon" laws that require fixed magazines that can only be removed with the use of a tool.

Exactly the idea.

[bohoki]

i could see them imbeddding them in a polymer frame