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  • #16
    uyoga
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Sep 2010
    • 681

    Originally posted by bdsmchs
    That's what I love about Arizona. It's a license to carry a concealed weapon. Period. ANY (legal) weapon. Not just guns
    Florida follows the same concept: A concealed weapon is a concealed weapon.
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    • #17
      Andy Taylor
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2007
      • 1367

      To those who are ok with the idea that you have to list the guns, here is something to think about:

      When I was 16 I took my DMV driver's test in my mother's '83 Ford LTD.
      A few months later I bought my first car, a '76 Dodge Aspen. Did I have to retake my DL test in the Dodge? The answer is no. In the years since I have owned at least 15 different cars and trucks, and have driven many other vehicles that were owned by friends, reletives or employers. Except when I added motorcycles to my license, I did not have to add to, or change, my license. In adding motorcycles to my license, I added all motorcycles, not just my first street bike, an '85 Honda Sabre, but also any Harley, modern sport bike, or touring bike I choose.

      Why would guns be different?

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      • #18
        Andy Taylor
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2007
        • 1367

        Originally posted by uyoga
        Florida follows the same concept: A concealed weapon is a concealed weapon.

        I believe, but could be wrong, that CA and NV are the only two states that make you list the guns to be carried. I think in TX you qualify with either a revolver or semi-auto. If you qualify with an auto, you get revolver too.

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        • #19
          hkusp9c
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 690

          Originally posted by Andy Taylor
          Why would guns be different?
          Because "they" think guns kill people.

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          • #20
            paul0660
            In Memoriam
            • Jul 2007
            • 15669

            you better be good enough with a gun to make sure you grab the right one before heading out
            boy howdy.

            AP forgot to mention that he gets to use standard capacity mags, too.
            *REMOVE THIS PART BEFORE POSTING*

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            • #21
              theneko
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 1173

              And it really sucks if you have 2 of the same gun but you can only carry the one on the permit. Unless you qualify again with the second and all 3 of your spaces aren't filled!
              TheNeko

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              • #22
                wildhawker
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2008
                • 14150

                From our CGF CCW flowchart and guide
                Brandon Combs

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                My comments are not the official position or a statement of any organization unless stated otherwise. My comments are not legal advice; if you want or need legal advice, hire a lawyer.

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                • #23
                  Andy Taylor
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 1367

                  Originally posted by hkusp9c
                  Because "they" think guns kill people.
                  Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile is more has been used in more murders, than any of my guns.

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                  • #24
                    tiki
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 1441

                    So, what if I get an 80% 1911 frame and then build it up to a functioning firearm? There is no serial number on there so do I just list 1911 .45?

                    If that's the case, then that one line item should cover any 1911 .45.
                    Multiple Kimbers, 5" 4" 3"
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                    • #25
                      ap3572001
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 6039

                      Originally posted by dantodd
                      those are all restrictions that your employer put on you and have nothing to do with the law.



                      Why do you think that the sheriff should be permitted to tell me what to carry?

                      Do you also support a reading comprehension test for voters? Or a spelling test for people who wish to exercise their first amendment rights?
                      If they can do it to their deputies , they CAN and WILL do it everyone else.

                      I see no problem with it .

                      So You understand this a little better, If I carry a pistol off duty that is NOT on our list, I am NOT breaking the law. Just just violating dept policy.

                      If a local Sheriff issues a permit to carry a firearm , He/She has a FULL right to have their own regulations. The same way as they do for their officers.

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                      • #26
                        wildhawker
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 14150

                        Originally posted by tiki
                        So, what if I get an 80% 1911 frame and then build it up to a functioning firearm? There is no serial number on there so do I just list 1911 .45?

                        If that's the case, then that one line item should cover any 1911 .45.
                        Multiple Kimbers, 5" 4" 3"
                        Registration can't be required. Outside of the clear conflict such would have with the text of the statute, how, then, could a husband list a handgun registered to his wife? Should he be disallowed use of (what is likely) community property? Not only that, but lack of dual-registration also subjects the husband in this hypothetical to additional criminal penalties if he were to be found illegally carrying the firearm.
                        Brandon Combs

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                        My comments are not the official position or a statement of any organization unless stated otherwise. My comments are not legal advice; if you want or need legal advice, hire a lawyer.

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                        • #27
                          CSDGuy
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 3763

                          Originally posted by ap3572001
                          I am an LEO for almost 20 years.
                          I can only carry handguns that are on my departments list. On and off duty.
                          I must carry at least on reload ( on and off duty ) .
                          I must use ONLY factory magazines on and off duty.
                          I must have a round in the chamber and if my pistol has a manual safety I SHALL NOT use it.
                          I must load my pistol with US made JHP ammo ONLY.

                          I GET TESTED WITH EVERY HANDGUN I CARRY ON AND OFF DUTY EVERY YEAR . AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR.


                          I am 100% FOR some control of what people with CCW will cary.

                          And that they get tested with those handguns.
                          You may carry whatever you desire, according to the LEOSA. If your agency policy has the effect of law upon you, the LEOSA supercedes this. However, if you do carry whatever is not authorized by your agency and you're caught, you might face discipline. If you do, it's up to you to sue your own department in Federal Court over the LEOSA violation on their part. You'd be a test case. Your decision...

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                          • #28
                            CalNRA
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 8686

                            Originally posted by dantodd
                            those are all restrictions that your employer put on you and have nothing to do with the law.
                            yep. fundamental rights and what the guy signing the check to you wants are completely separate things.
                            Originally posted by cvigue
                            This is not rocket surgery.

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                            • #29
                              dantodd
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 9360

                              Ap, the sheriff has considerably more control over what you, his employee, can do than he has over what I, his employer, can do.
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                              • #30
                                ap3572001
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 6039

                                Originally posted by dantodd
                                Ap, the sheriff has considerably more control over what you, his employee, can do than he has over what I, his employer, can do.
                                Sheriff can , does,will and should control and enforce all CCW issues in their county. Bottom line.

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