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  • #46
    2Bear
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 1696

    C'mon, 96 knives PLUS FIVE BRASS KNUCKLES!!!

    That's ONE-HUNDRED AND ONE of stuff like that, no way that's legal.
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    • #47
      Ed_in_Sac
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 962

      Don't understand the entire thing. Was it because he left a loaded gun where felons had access to it? Other than that I don't see any problems, he stated all the guns were purchased in N.Y. so they must be permissible. As to the hype about the knives and ammo, that is just sensationalism on the part of the press.

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      • #48
        AJAX22
        I need a LIFE!!
        • May 2006
        • 14980

        Originally posted by Ed_in_Sac
        Don't understand the entire thing. Was it because he left a loaded gun where felons had access to it? Other than that I don't see any problems, he stated all the guns were purchased in N.Y. so they must be permissible. As to the hype about the knives and ammo, that is just sensationalism on the part of the press.
        NYC has 3 year mandatory minimums on firearms which are not permitted by the city.

        Purchasing them elsewhere in the state legally does not allow you to bring them into the city... period.

        and possession of ammunition of a type that is not for a firearm permitted by the city is a separate felony count for each round. (my understanding of it)

        plus the AK, while it may well be legal under NY laws, is definitely an assault weapon under the more restrictive NYC laws.

        and the magazines for it are a separate and significant issue if they are over 5 rounds.
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        • #49
          ptoguy2002
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2006
          • 3863

          Originally posted by 2Bear
          C'mon, 96 knives PLUS FIVE BRASS KNUCKLES!!!

          That's ONE-HUNDRED AND ONE of stuff like that, no way that's legal.
          Oh C'mon.
          With the numbers of guns that some people here have, there is no way they are legal either.
          Maybe the guy collects knives?
          Lotsa people do.
          So if I collect HKs, and have a bunch of them, that just can't be legal either?.
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          • #50
            Sutcliffe
            Calguns Addict
            • Mar 2003
            • 6792

            I feel the same way

            Originally posted by bulgron
            This article is a prime example why, when I move, I move my own guns. If it means putting them in my truck and driving 3,000 miles to another state, I still move my own guns.
            Too important to let people with no benefits and earning minimum wage to have free access to. You could even say that about my pron collection.

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            • #51
              wash
              Calguns Addict
              • Aug 2007
              • 9011

              I was just thinking that maybe those five brass knuckles might have been trench knives and he might be a knife collector.

              It's nothing new for the tattoo comunity to be gun or knife collectors.

              They deal with "outlaw bikers" and other segments of society that probably have arms.

              While tattoos have become more mainstream, that element is still around.
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              • #52
                blackbox
                Member
                • Apr 2007
                • 262

                Check this out: The moving company is not mom-and-pop movers but an international shipping company: First Global Express. They are actually bragging about their involvement. Anyone here doing business with them, that they can cancel?



                Feel free to politely contact the CEO and explain how if he's not comfortable accepting his client's goods for shipment, the right course of action is to contact the client, not the police.


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                • #53
                  Kid Stanislaus
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 4419

                  Do I understand this happened in NYC and he was in violation of NYC firearms laws? I don't like their stink'n firearms laws any more than the rest of you but if I go there I'm going to obey their laws or be willing to face the consequences. I don't have a lot of sympathy for this guy.
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                  • #54
                    ed bernay
                    Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 150

                    Originally posted by Kid Stanislaus
                    Do I understand this happened in NYC and he was in violation of NYC firearms laws? I don't like their stink'n firearms laws any more than the rest of you but if I go there I'm going to obey their laws or be willing to face the consequences. I don't have a lot of sympathy for this guy.
                    are you serious? They violate his constitutional rights and you have no sympathy for him? At what point will you resist a politicans' violation of your constitutional rights (or at least have sympathy for those that do)? Do you have sympathy for those killed at Waco or did those religious nuts deserve it too?

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                    • #55
                      tiki
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 1441

                      [Shipping company CEO] Brown doesn't oppose the Second Amendment's Right to Bear Arms; what he does oppose is the carelessness and irresponsibility shown in consigning LOADED firearms to a shipping company (FGX in this case) without so much as a peep from the consignee. "It is not my job to pass judgment pertaining to the legality of owning these particular weapons; it is, however, my job to protect the safety of my employees, as well as the integrity and safety of the shipping streams in and out of this country."
                      I can't find any fault here on the part of the shipping company. Sorry guys. Shipping a loaded firearm is just stupid. Very stupid. The 2nd Amendment protects your right to keep and bear arms. It does not absolve you of the responsibility that goes along with that right.
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                      • #56
                        blackbox
                        Member
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 262

                        Originally posted by tiki
                        Shipping a loaded firearm is just stupid. Very stupid. The 2nd Amendment protects your right to keep and bear arms. It does not absolve you of the responsibility that goes along with that right.
                        True... The man is a world traveller though, this was probably a storage locker full of stuff he hadn't looked at in a long time. He was contracting with other people to pack it up and ship it for him, its not like he dropped off a loaded rifle at the fedex counter. If the shipping company found something not stored properly, their first call should be to the person who hired them, saying either "you need to pack this better", or "you need to ship by other means, we don't handle guns/ammo". Calling the cops is a dick move. Given a choice, I sure wouldn't use this company for anything.

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                        • #57
                          D.R.E.
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 891

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                          Originally posted by blackbox
                          Check this out: The moving company is not mom-and-pop movers but an international shipping company: First Global Express. They are actually bragging about their involvement. Anyone here doing business with them, that they can cancel?



                          Feel free to politely contact the CEO and explain how if he's not comfortable accepting his client's goods for shipment, the right course of action is to contact the client, not the police.


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                          (212) 352-9390
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                          • #58
                            tiki
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 1441

                            Originally posted by blackbox
                            True... The man is a world traveller though,
                            this was probably a storage locker full of stuff he hadn't looked at in a long time. He was contracting with other people to pack it up and ship it for him, its not like he dropped off a loaded rifle at the fedex counter. If the shipping company found something not stored properly, their first call should be to the person who hired them, saying either "you need to pack this better", or "you need to ship by other means, we don't handle guns/ammo". Calling the cops is a dick move. Given a choice, I sure wouldn't use this company for anything.
                            There is a responsibility that goes with owning firearms, and that responsibility is not dependant on one's travel habits.
                            Plus, at some point, whether it was last week or last year, a loaded firearm was placed somewhere where it was forgotten. That isn't responsible. Dick move on the shippers? Maybe. Maybe he got pissed off about it. If I worked for the shipping company and it was my job to move that container, I would be pretty pissed off.
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                            • #59
                              sd_shooter
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 13258

                              The story from the shipping company:

                              New York, NY (MMD Newswire) November 9, 2010 -- First Global Xpress (FGX), a direct-shipping services company that specializes in international shipping and is based out of New York City, captured the essence of diligence and timing on Saturday, November 6th, in the their efforts to swiftly alert authorities on a shipment that was handled by their facility containing an assortment of weapons, including a LOADED AK-47 assault rifle inclusive of a banana-clip, 96 knives, knuckle rings and a series of explosives, which turned out to be large fireworks.

                              Justin Brown, CEO of FGX was immediately notified of the findings by his Operations Management Team, activating a sequence of internal security measures to quickly evacuate the premises and lock down the perimeter, awaiting the arrival of several of the advised agencies, including the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Brown said that since his staff is trained in detecting possible violations to shipping standards imposed by the Transportation and Security Administration (TSA) and the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), their work is a clear indication of solid training and an "incredibly fail-safe security plan" devised by a team of his Expert Advisors. "FGX's employees know what to look for; they spotted the irregularity when we were requested to move, among other things, an old, decrepit suitcase that was heavily packed. They discovered the ammunition because the handle of the suitcase broke off and bullets were spotted through the hole." This prompted their rapid response, and Brown was summoned to the scene immediately. Upon determining that they were dealing with a situation beyond the scope of their control, they avoided the potential endangerment of the surrounding community and contacted the authorities.

                              Brown doesn't oppose the Second Amendment's Right to Bear Arms; what he does oppose is the carelessness and irresponsibility shown in consigning LOADED firearms to a shipping company (FGX in this case) without so much as a peep from the consignee. "It is not my job to pass judgment pertaining to the legality of owning these particular weapons; it is, however, my job to protect the safety of my employees, as well as the integrity and safety of the shipping streams in and out of this country."

                              First Global Xpress's commitment rises far and above the common practices of social corporate responsibility; in fact, while they have been slated as a pioneer direct shipper for boasting cleaner, faster and less expensive shipping services internationally, their internal policies and procedures are a testament to "ship cleaner, ship direct" today. "We're past the notion that we live alone in today's society and the 'every-man-for-himself' paradigm; home is where community is, and it's our goal to keep communities safe, secure and healthy. " Brown's statement sets the standards and the example that FGX and its employees follow to the letter.
                              I guess the "banana clip" pushed them over the edge...

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                              • #60
                                monstertodd
                                Member
                                • May 2009
                                • 318

                                I can understand the shipping companies position on this one.

                                It was completely irresponsible of the owner to put loaded firearms in a suit case expecting them to shipped with the rest of his house hold goods. That is NOT responsible firearms ownership. Think of the liability that company could experience if somewhere down the shipping line, an accident occurred which resulted in a discharged firearm. Sure the owner would ultimately be responsible, but the shipping company would share in at least some of the liability.
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