Sue non-CA sellers on Gunbroker

[Kharn]

Sorry but I don't want to answer an indictment from a DA on the other side of the country for a law I did not know existed.

[Rhythm of Life]

seriously?

[GM4spd]

Unbelievable--a day doesn't go by on here when someone------- Pete

[Dragunov]

Yeah, and about 25,357,007 of those are based on envy...

It has nothing to do with envy on their part. It has to do with the arrogance on our part.

[Serpentine]

Having been a range safety officer for over 20 years, I can tell you that most gun enthusiast don't vote. It really amazes me. We've collectively created the situation we're in now by allowing it to happen.

It's the "my vote won't change things, so I don't vote," that has proliferated our destiny.


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[negolien]

Maybe they are making a statement against Calif. laws /shrug. Embargo's have been around for a long time and are sometimes useful in forcing political change. If it upsets you join the political movement of your choice to change the Nazi laws here in California that not only screws us the consumer but drives thousands of jobs out of state.

I give a perfect example of the stupidity the Legislature here in California calls laws. My spouse works for what will be an unnamed non profit blood center here in the State capital. The rules California passes on blood products makes it very very difficult to sell these blood products here in this state or any other. Why is that you may ask? It's simple my friends. They don't require the out of state blood centers to follow the same laws thus enabling them to undercut her Blood center. Explain to me how this is supposed to keep jobs and businesses here in the state when retarded rules like this exist not only for her business but multiple that by several tens of thousands of other businesses.

The only option we as citizens have is...... VOTE THESE SORRY TURDS OUT OF OFFICE

[dfletcher]

Ok, let me clear up something. I have been refused on non-gun items. Many times it's not a matter of complying with gun laws. A scope does not fall into that catagory. If you attend an auction that is "Open to the Public", you place a bid and then the auctioneer says "sorry I won't sell to you because I don't sell to people of your political belief." (or whatever reason). It was a public auction and a bid was offered and accepted. (Buy it Now). To me that is discrimination. When you offer something for sale to the public, you don't have the right to discriminate against a lawful buyer. In my situation I used the "Buy it Now" on a scope. I sent my funds to the seller, he returned it and said "Screw you Californians". It is a open case of it was offered for sale, the price was accepted and paid. For all you guys out there that think this is right, correct, fair, I strongly disagree. To me it is a contact. You offered, and I accepted.

Simply put, "Open to the Public" does not preclude "No shirt, no shoes - no service". It may not be the best or fair, but it's better than the alternative and unfortunately, life is not fair.

On auctions send an e-mail asking if they sell to CA before you bid. If they says no & the thing doesn't sell - send an e-mail calling him a numb nuts & tell him that if he'd said yes to you cash would already be on its way.

[dieselpower]

I got to about post 34 and there was too much fail to go on reading...

99% of you are wrong. You have no idea what our country was founded on.

united we stand, divided we fall. Those words were not spoken just to motivate people to come together...they were a cautionary message to those who wanted to stand apart.

President George Washington, in his first term, and one of his first major decisions as POTUS, marched 10,000 US Army troops into NY and FORCED then to stand with the other States.

Under the theory of the republic, Texas can't charge NY more then they charge AZ, AZ can't refused service to CA.

What those sellers are doing is destroying what 2A followers hold dear. We as a group would be better off without them. Washington knew this and he had several dozen hard working honest business owners jailed and stripped of everything they had. Several were killed in confrontation. The nation was stronger without them and without their separatist ways.

California, Hawaii and NJ gun owners are not the only ones seeing this. People in "free" States are looking at those sellers and shaking their heads too.

At some point we will all need to stand together and drive them out of business...they are doing us no good and are a cancer eating away at us.

[Kynoch]

It's not just firearms, and it's not just CA.

Due to CA's ludicrous laws, many companies simply won't do business in CA. Due to NY's liability situation, many companies won't sell to NY. CDNN for example won't ship handguns to NY.

From a dealer's point of view, it's just easier to say "no sales" than have to keep track of the laws. Time is money.

So is sales to a potentially huge market...

[Kynoch]

Sorry but I don't want to answer an indictment from a DA on the other side of the country for a law I did not know existed.

Bull. It's not rocket science. Then again, maybe it is to you...

[Kynoch]

It has nothing to do with envy on their part. It has to do with the arrogance on our part.

LOL!!

It's envy. It's amusing watching people from some cesspit of the USA talking about how bad California is -- and they've been doing it for 50 years. Nothing but envy...

[Kynoch]

Having been a range safety officer for over 20 years, I can tell you that most gun enthusiast don't vote. It really amazes me. We've collectively created the situation we're in now by allowing it to happen.

It's the "my vote won't change things, so I don't vote," that has proliferated our destiny.

I believe that. And it's sad. Damned sad...

[Serpentine]

LOL!!

It's envy. It's amusing watching people from some cesspit of the USA talking about how bad California is -- and they've been doing it for 50 years. Nothing but envy...

Envy? That's too funny. Who in their right mind would envy sacrificing their civil rights, increasing the cost of doing business, massive home foreclosures, little border controls, gay rights and marijuana advocates, stripped down law enforcement, etc., etc., to move here?

Reality; people are moving out of CA to survive financially, and to retain their rights and personal security.


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[kcbrown]

Under the theory of the republic, Texas can't charge NY more then they charge AZ, AZ can't refused service to CA.

What those sellers are doing is destroying what 2A followers hold dear. We as a group would be better off without them. Washington knew this and he had several dozen hard working honest business owners jailed and stripped of everything they had. Several were killed in confrontation. The nation was stronger without them and without their separatist ways.

No, what's happening is that California is destroying what 2A followers hold dear. California is attempting to regulate interstate transactions. That's highly Unconstitutional, and yes, I agree it's something the founders would not have put up with. There's a lot California does today that the founders would not have put up with.

California, Hawaii and NJ gun owners are not the only ones seeing this. People in "free" States are looking at those sellers and shaking their heads too.

At some point we will all need to stand together and drive them out of business...they are doing us no good and are a cancer eating away at us.

Your heart's in the right place but you've got the wrong target. The refusal of some of these sellers to sell to California is a symptom, not an underlying cause. The root cause is California's attempts to regulate interstate commerce. Fix that, and the problem with these sellers will disappear.

[dieselpower]

Your heart's in the right place but you've got the wrong target. The refusal of some of these sellers to sell to California is a symptom, not an underlying cause. The root cause is California's attempts to regulate interstate commerce. Fix that, and the problem with these sellers will disappear.

When a guy in Texas takes my order for a scope and then after hearing my address, tells me to "F-off I don't sell to you people". Thats not a symptom of the problem any more then a 21 yr old paying higher insurance rates is a symptom of higher accident rates. You are looking at the issue wrong.

If we had greater support from them, our fight would be easier. "Ignore the Nazi Party, its the Jews fault for living there...." Is this a symptom caused by the Nazis Party? No. Its the lack of common bonds that allows the Nazi Party to exist. If all the Jews left germany...would WWII and the Nazi Party cease to exist? Would the Nazi Party gain strength and come knocking on someones else's door?

The sellers are not a symptom...they are part of the cancer itself. They merely have tricked you into believing their BS. Put them in charge and you would see even greater 2A restrictions. These people are NOT friends of the 2A. If they could make a buck killing babies they would as long as it was an easy ride.

I don't support them and treat them worse then the anti-gun crowd. At least I see where the knife is coming from with the Brady Camp.

You people really need to rethink this, "they have the right to refuse service to anyone" BS. It's as valid as, "Cocaine in my pocket..oh these arent even my pants officer." Or how about, "Well she told me she wanted to have sex before she passed out..."