Legal Community Against Violence 17th Anniversary Dinner pictures!!

[wash]

LCAV gives lawyers a bad name.

Think about it, most people hate the defense attourney that lets a child molestor get off scott-free, but that criminal has a right to a defense because that's how the system works and that's how the founding fathers designed the system to work.

The defense attourney is a check against government and police persecution and we need that.

No one needs the LCAV because they are trying to strip our rights and use our system to hurt us.

They serve no purpose other than their own.

If I saw any of them standing on railroad tracks and a train was coming, I might take a picture but I don't know if I could stomach helping them.

[thedrickel]

^^ I found this picture of Gene speaking at the LCAV dinner highly entertaining . . .

[Suvorov]

'Shall issue CCW' - it would not have prevented the shootings but would have ended them before most of the victims were killed. Shall issue CCW is vital. On this we all agree, yes?

Yes, we all agree. But if LCAV has there way, Shall issue will NEVER happen and you and I will be lucky to own a single shot rifle.

While we all have sympathy for those who have lost friends and loved ones to the actions of murderous souls, it does change the fact that they stand opposed to everything we hold dear. That their start is the result of a terrible tragedy does not excuse the lies and deceit they use to advance their agenda, nor the terrible price many innocents have paid for their irresponsible litigation and efforts.

History is full of thousands of tyrants and murderers who were initially motivated by grief. Perhaps LCAV was founded with noble intent, but it has quickly become a vanguard of the statist agenda. A viscous dog may very well have been the victim of horrible treatment by its owners, but it does not change the fact that the dog must be put down before it does more harm.

[N6ATF]

^^ I found this picture of Gene speaking at the LCAV dinner highly entertaining . . .

"WE WILL BURY YOU!"

If I saw any of them standing on railroad tracks and a train was coming, I might take a picture but I don't know if I could stomach helping them.

Why endanger your own life to prevent their suicide out of guilt over all the people they've gotten killed, raped, maimed, and otherwise victimized?

[hill billy]

The legislators aren't immune - but let's be clear, LCAV has driven an enormous amount of this legislation. We've seen it in San Mateo, Oakland and Emeryville. LCAV posts model laws, gives soothing legal analysis and promises litigation support for such laws. They're much more than just "mouthpeices".

And even more nefarious, they are not on the hook to pay the bills when the house of cards they have been propping up fails. They say, "Oops, sorry" and walk away.

[gunsmith]

I was at Petit & Martin 101 CA street that day!

I was a messenger, I had to go up thru the delivery entrance because I wasn't wearing a suit like psycho killer was. I wasn't a gun owner at the time but I always carried some sort of weapon, I believed in gun ownership but was your basic weed smoking hippie punk bike messenger.
I was about 3 blocks away when I noticed the cavalry rushing to the scene ( only to stay outside until psycho killer creep was done )

I wondered why no one shot back when I watched the news that night, if I had the $$ the office ppl had I would have bought a gun.

The only way to survive a psycho killer bent on killing you is to fight back, all the laws in the world all the cops in the world can't get in between you and the nutcase.

I guess Robin is the lady that was saved by her husband crawling over her to protect her- going thru that would make most a little kooky, I feel sorry for her.

When my brother in law was shot dead in NYC I was angry that he couldn't shoot back - he obeyed the law and died.

I do not understand how "smart" people can convince themselves that being a victim is a way to survive. Instead of learning/healing from the massacre they seek to recreate the circumstances for them and everyone else ... they want me to be disarmed because they were. ... weird.

[jdberger]

I guess Robin is the lady that was saved by her husband crawling over her to protect her- going thru that would make most a little kooky, I feel sorry for her.

John Scully was protecting his wife, Michelle. Though it's possible that his widow might have changed her name, I doubt it.

I don't know what Robyn Thomas's motivation is. Frankly, I don't care. Like my hypothetical Klansman above, she's decided to victimize innocents in her vindictive pursuit of an oppressive agenda.

[Hunt]

...I don't like the way CA law is written to trap and trick people.

thanks, so true, it's almost like the lawmakers have creative trapping consultants.

[GOEX FFF]

Alcohol and Violence

http://www.marininstitute.org/alcohol_policy/violence.htm

• Alcohol availability is closely related to violent assaults. Communities and neighborhoods that have more bars and liquor stores per capita experience more assaults.
• Alcohol use is frequently associated with violence between intimate partners. Two-thirds of victims of intimate partner violence reported that alcohol was involved in the incident.
• In one study of interpersonal violence, men had been drinking in an estimated 45 percent of cases and women had been drinking in 20 percent of cases.
• Women whose partners abused alcohol were 3.6 times more likely than other women to be assaulted by their partners.
• In 1997, 40 percent of convicted rape and sexual assault offenders said that they were drinking at the time of their crime.
• In 2002, more than 70,000 students between the ages of 18 and 24 were victims of alcohol-related sexual assault in the U.S.
• In those violent incidents recorded by the police in which alcohol was a factor, about nine percent of the offenders and nearly 14 percent of the victims were under age 21.
• Twenty-eight percent of suicides by children ages nine to 15 were attributable to alcohol.
• An estimated 480,000 children are mistreated each year by a caretaker with alcohol problems.
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As we all know, (not to mention all of the automotive alcohol related deaths every year)... this list goes on and on and on...........

Looking at the pictures here, you'll clearly see wine glasses and most probably other (alcoholic) beverages on the tables with people casually sipping away.
IF the LCAV is truly against violence, then maybe they should toss out the booze and should be drinking spring water, juicy juice and warm milk at their future dinner events.
Yet, with all the alcohol related violence, the LCAV I’m sure pays a substantial amount for the booze tab served at their dinners.

I mean really, what crock of Hypocrites here.

On a related note, I'm sure Helmke cracks a beer or sips his own "whine" without giving a second thought about how many people die, are assaulted, families destroyed, children abused and neglected all due to alcohol related crimes.

Its all about their personal agendas.