Long Beach PD rescues UOCer from Park Police on Independence Day!!

[pullnshoot25]

Re: Long Beach PD rescues UOCer from Park Police on Independence Day!!

Mm this post.

[a.tinkerer]

I prefer the society where I don't need a card (and associated intrusive BS) that states the otherwise obvious right to carry - concealed/open/up my crock/or however I choose...

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...I do want a society where people can readily obtain a CCW...

BTW swiss, you're entitled to your opinions.
Anyone here is also entitled to view you as a pantyNancy for tapdancing on your soapbox.
Also, what part of contra costa county is 'worse than Long Beach'?

Here are the listed cities in your county:
Antioch Lafayette Pleasant Hill Brentwood Martinez Richmond Clayton Moraga San Pablo Concord Oakley San Ramon Danville Orinda Walnut Creek El Cerrito Pinole Hercules Pittsburg


Considering the dynamic of Long Beach, the only comparable area I could to-some-extent agree with would be parts of Richmond.







Cheers
Tinker

[pullnshoot25]

Re: Long Beach PD rescues UOCer from Park Police on Independence Day!!

You guys do know what Liberty1 does for a living right?? If you did, you would also realize you're talking out of your ***. Liberty1 stepped up to help save my ***(from a hot blonde harbor patrol ) once when I got 12031'd at an UOC event here in SD. Thanks again L1 !

She was pretty hot...

[pullnshoot25]

Re: Long Beach PD rescues UOCer from Park Police on Independence Day!!

Thank you for clarifying and my apologies for misreading your post w/r/t PNS.

No worries. My brain and typing fingers aren't exactly on the same wave link at times

What is this post referring to?

[Maestro Pistolero]

WHAT DOES LIBERTY1 DO FOR LIVING, PLEASE? Or are you just enjoying people "talking out of your ***."

[Paper Boy]

If average people do not openly carry those two impressions might be all that observers might take with them... however, the regularity of open carry in California has an opportunity to add a third impression; that of a person taking their safety as a personal responsibility.

^This^
I lived in AZ and have a CCW but when it was really hot I would not worry to much about covering my gun, just keeping cool. Did anyone ever say anything? No. Did I get some people looking me over? Yes I did, as they should, wouldn’t you want to be aware of what / who is around you?

Did anyone call the cops? No they did not because it was normal to see people with a pistol on their hip. Hell about once a weak when at the grocery store there would be people with a pistol, no one freaked and called the cops. If people see others open carrying enough it becomes the norm. Just like fear of guns has become the norm in CA.

Will you change everyone’s mind over night? No you wont but maybe you open 1 or 2 people’s eyes and they pass that along to 1 or 2 people and eventually it becomes accepted, or at the very least not a reason to call the cops, which in my mind is a small victory.

Any way my 2 cents

[pullnshoot25]

Re: Long Beach PD rescues UOCer from Park Police on Independence Day!!

WHAT DOES LIBERTY1 DO FOR LIVING, PLEASE? Or are you just enjoying people "talking out of your ***."

For the millionth time, he is a cop.

As a side note, he is one of the few cops that I truly respect.

[383green]

WHAT DOES LIBERTY1 DO FOR LIVING, PLEASE?

He's a neurosurgeon. And a rock star (hence, the ever-present guitar case). And an interdimensional traveler.

[Maestro Pistolero]

For the millionth time, he is a cop.

It's not in his profile or in this thread. Thanks, I must have missed the first 999,999 times that was mentioned.

[NORCAL#1]

thanks

Thanks dieselpower and nightowl for the example's. I also think that we live in a age when most people, even if there are OC will probably not come to you aid . Most people will not put there neck on the line for someone else, and thats to bad!

[Bugei]

Some folks see things

Not in this case, sorry. A shootout in a crowded park isn't going to produce a lot of love. He had other options available to him if he felt so unsafe. The OP is looking for encounters to give him publicity and exposure, nothing more.

That schoolyard in Stockton was pretty safe, until Patrick Purdy showed up. At that point, I bet the parents would have preferred a shootout over the massacre they got.

Anyone here who can actually see the word "concealed" in the Second Amendment has my congratulations for their imagination; it ain't there. And since it's your right, concealed or open or purple or bolted to the side of your hide, I'm not going to be one of those who tell you not to exercise your right.

Suit yourself; you have the right.

[Liberty1]

You guys do know what Liberty1 does for a living right?? If you did, you would also realize you're talking out of your ***.

My employment doesn't make my opinions any more or less valid then those expressed in opposition to mine. I just simply believe LOC is a valid tactical self defense carry platform for the reasons expressed here. And that OC can aid in the furtherance of self defense rights along the Virginia/Ohio/Wisconsin OC models (generally court protected).

However UOC in the short term can and has caused some negatives (possible ban). One positive has been the greatly improved education of many peace officers on the 'People v Clark' loaded definition.

I've gone from a UOC advocate three years ago to a wait for incorporation and now a wait for the ban bill to be decided bench sitter. I hope to be backing UOC again soon as a vehicle for educating the public while we fight for some form of loaded carry.

And I will always be working toward the goal of 'constitutional carry'.

And although things were not perfect I'm very proud of my brothers at LBPD for doing the right thing.

[Maestro Pistolero]

I've gone from a UOC advocate three years ago to a wait for incorporation and now a wait for the ban bill to be decided bench sitter. I hope to be backing UOC again soon as a vehicle for educating the public while we fight for some form of loaded carry.

You were UOC'ing at the park, right? But here you appear to be advocating a stand-down for UOC. Is that just since this incident? As LE you are entitled to LOC, yes? Sorry, I am a little confused.

[Liberty1]

You were UOC'ing at the park, right? But here you appear to be advocating a stand-down for UOC. Is that just since this incident? As LE you are entitled to LOC, yes? Sorry, I am a little confused.

I'm not the guy who was detained in LB. I support the stand down for now. I can LOC but have UOCed back when I was doing the meet ups over a year ago. I like it when LE get it generally right so I copied the OP from OCDO to CGN.

[Maestro Pistolero]

Got it, thanks.

I'm not the guy who was detained in LB. I support the stand down for now. I can LOC but have UOCed back when I was doing the meet ups over a year ago. I like it when LE get it generally right so I copied the OP from OCDO to CGN.