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[FS00008]

Dang that was an exciting hearing. I am not surprised they punted, but I wish that the rest of them would've listened to Kozinski...

[nick]

I don't doubt that number at all. You have to weigh in places like new york and san fransisco. Add that to the fact that until you deal with the registration process, and see the negative effects of it, it makes sense to most people. Best way to convert somebody is explain how to buy a gun in CA and what happens if your name coincides with some dirt bag that just got paroled.

I do doubt that number. For one, the other side has a solid track record in falsifying "studies", polls, etc. Secondly, all the polls I've experienced so far were pro-gun by at least a few percentage points, so where would such an overwhelming (79%) majority come from? I don't recall when that many people agreed on anything in this country. Finally, with about 80 million gun owners in this country (meaning people over 18 owning guns, and such polls specifically don't include minors, so that 79% would be the 79% of the polled ADULTS, not overall population), let's see... The adult population is 230 million (75.7% from 304 million, as 24.3% of the US population is under 18). 79% of that is 181.8 million people. So, roughly 30 million, or 37.5% of gun owners think that gun registration is a good idea? And that's not counting the gun owners that don't admit that they own a gun when asked that in a poll (would you?), their families; not counting the people who don't own a gun but support 2nd Amendment (like I did until a year and a half ago), etc.? The math doesn't add up.

Then again, no anti-gun organization ever let facts stand in its way.

[FS00008]

And sorry to all who were wondering about details earlier I was trying to be inconspicuous and my phone is a PITA to get detailed with on twitter. I would've gone into more detail but then we went to lunch and we were too busy to update. I'm sure you all have the deets now :-).

[Fjold]

Listening to the arguments, I was impressed by Judge Kazinsky. He asked well thought out questions and seemed to spot the contradictions in the arguments and build questions around them very well.

[pullnshoot25]

Hey everyone! I just FINALLY got home and settled in again and I am going to make this brief as I have a bus to drive in the morning!

I would like to thank AndrewMendez for taking the initiative to update everyone on CGN with both FS00008's and my updates, whether via Tumblr or Twitter. I appreciate the teamwork and I hope to do an even better job next time, if given the chance. I had some issues with cell phone reception at a few junctions and that could explain the odd timing of a few of my updates. Also, I am a little peeved that my image posts didn't come with some kind of notation on them. I find that quite annoying.

Below is a post that Andrew didn't catch due to time constraints.



Here is a picture that I posted. It is of Kilmer, Gura, Keats and Michel.


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I would like to thank everyone that was there today for the good times and the history that we all shared. I feel humbled that I was able to meet some living legends (at least in my world), namely the CGF, associated legal team, etc. It was truly an amazing experience and I am a little peeved I had to leave so soon.

While it is a crying shame that the Ninth punted the decision to wait on the guidance of SCOTUS, the end result is that we are just one step closer to the goal and getting our rights back.

Again, many thanks to all those that attended in body or spirit and supported us in the digital world.

CARRY ON!

-N8

P.S. Did anyone catch Alameda's reference to open carry? Oh yeah!

[FS00008]

Nate you forget to mention exactly what happened with that reference to open carry and your involuntary reaction haha...

[FS00008]

And Nate is a much better note taker than I am...

[pullnshoot25]

Nate you forget to mention exactly what happened with that reference to open carry and your involuntary reaction haha...

Kinda hard to describe the hand motion. I might do an audio recording and post it, haha!

[FS00008]

True true... that would work.

[mmartin]

Also that gun registration in other places usually leads to confiscation.

and I'm gonna speculate that the same people who are polling at 70+% for gun registration are equally ok with that. it's all for our own safety, you know... and if it saves just *one* child's life...
gak.
stinkin' thinkin'.
megan

[Harley Quinn]

I am more inclined to think the way they are doing it now.

"New", with regs. against selling outside of your city or county and flying it in, (shipping) so you don't pay taxes. The dealers don't pay tax but the buyer should or so you would think?

Cabales and Midway etc. are afraid to lose the CA market, rightfully so. But, I have an idea, the state will go for the money and tax idea and not allow sales in CA anymore...Hmmm More tax revenue for them, the state is broke folks...Get used to the idea of more things being bought local...

Some go to great lengths to beat the tax, that helps our system survive.

Many are cheats and get caught for failure to pay taxes...What is odd is they (gov) will take a lot less than really owed to settle... Need to stop the settle, and just clamp um up for now...

Maybe if a few, really hit the bucket people will realize paying is the best way, to stay out of jail.

Regards

[inbox485]

and I'm gonna speculate that the same people who are polling at 70+% for gun registration are equally ok with that. it's all for our own safety, you know... and if it saves just *one* child's life...
gak.
stinkin' thinkin'.
megan

I've known too many CA gun owners that think registration is fine. When I mention things like ATF raids on residences following a brady denial, or the sad history confiscation followed by genocide, they claim that couldn't happen in the US. I'd say that a fair part of that 70% has no clue how sinister registration is. They think it is like registering your car.

[Harley Quinn]

In listening, the "hidden agenda" dialogue is somewhat revealing in that for that judge, it seemed that Kilmer's case is very strong and thus comes up those old unfounded fears regarding open firearms access to the people.

You seem to have missed this one by a few miles...

This is a good thread much better to discuss the reality of what did happen compared to what others thought might happen.

Has a lot of good posts. One favorable item is many of the good old boys have not posted in it much...

So who wants to discuss the next step and how it will be lost like all the others leading up to it...I was wondering who, what, was the hidden agenda item about, if one cares to clairify...

Regards