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  • rips31
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 983

    someone at the proceedings said that she was a LCAV lawyer that was representing the county. that's why the judge kept questioning her about what group she belonged to...not that he was senile, but perhaps he knew who she was.

    Originally posted by RomanDad
    Does anybody know the name of the judge who sounds like hes about 300 years old???? He asked the Counties attorney "What YOUR group feel about this?" About a half dozen times before he finally conceded she represented the county?

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    • berto
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2005
      • 7723

      Originally posted by rips31
      someone at the proceedings said that she was a LCAV lawyer that was representing the county. that's why the judge kept questioning her about what group she belonged to...not that he was senile, but perhaps he knew who she was.
      She's a ringer brought in by the county. She's the former legal director of LCAV.



      "In 1996 Ms. Weaver assisted the City of West Hollywood in drafting an innovative local law prohibiting the sale of “junk guns” in that city. She then successfully defended that ordinance in the trial and appellate courts. The published decision, California Rifle & Pistol ***’n v. City of West Hollywood, 66 Cal. App. 4th 1302 (1998) is acknowledged as a landmark decision establishing that California’s local governments retain a wide scope of authority to regulate firearms. More recently, Ms. Weaver successfully defended the County of Alameda’s ordinance prohibiting possession of firearms and ammunition on County-owned property against a series of challenges in federal and state court, including defeating plaintiff’s petition for review in the United States Supreme Court. Nordyke v. King, 319 F.3d 1185 (9th Cir. 2003), cert. denied 543 U.S. 820 (2004). These cases have established Ms. Weaver as a leading authority on the scope of local regulation to regulate firearms in California...

      ...In 2005, Ms. Weaver was awarded a California Wellness Foundation Peace Prize in recognition of her legal work on firearms-related issues. In 2007, she received a Courageous Leadership Award from Women Against Gun Violence."
      Last edited by berto; 09-24-2009, 5:38 PM.
      "There are no outdoor sports as graceful as throwing stones at a dictatorship." Ai WeiWei

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      • rips31
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2006
        • 983

        yea, kinda what i heard. she didn't seem as poised as kilmer and it seemed like she contradicted herself a couple of times.

        Originally posted by berto
        She's a ringer brought in by the county.

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        • Merle
          Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 372

          Originally posted by berto
          Kudos to the judge then! Friggin smart

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          • Harley Quinn
            Member
            • Aug 2006
            • 480

            Originally posted by berto

            Well she is in the right place then it seems Doing what she does best I guess
            114
            Semper Fi
            "Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't
            be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our
            women and breed a hardier race!"
            -Lt. Gen. Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller, USMC

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            • woodsman
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2009
              • 569

              Look at the polling section on the LCAV webiste. http://www.lcav.org/resources/Polling.asp

              "A 2008 CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll found that 79% of Americans favor requiring guns to be registered"

              I have never participated in these polls and have little faith in their data.
              "The Right Of The People To
              Keep And Bear Arms Shall Not Be Infringed"

              Nuff Said....!

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              • Scarecrow Repair
                Senior Member
                • May 2006
                • 2425

                Circular reasoning

                It seemed to me that the Alameda attorney was saying that because the 2A is not incorporated, therefore banning guns is legal, in fact California could ban all guns period, and therefore there is no need to incorporate, so everyone ought to just go home and fugeddaboutit.

                She also kept on about buildings and security, pushing and pushing long past the judge's patience. If that was her best argument, she ran it into the ground and pissed off the judge. I doubt the other judges were impressed by her boring repetitiveness.
                Mention the Deacons for Defense and Justice and make both left and right wingnuts squirm

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                • Nose Nuggets
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 6801

                  Originally posted by woodsman
                  Look at the polling section on the LCAV webiste. http://www.lcav.org/resources/Polling.asp

                  "A 2008 CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll found that 79% of Americans favor requiring guns to be registered"

                  I have never participated in these polls and have little faith in their data.
                  Aaahhh the glory of living in a republic instead of a dreadful democracy. it doesn't matter if 99% of the country favors it. If its found to conflict with the constitution its worthless.

                  sadly we dont uphold the constitution the way we used too.


                  "It is to secure our rights that we resort to government at all." -Thomas Jefferson

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                  • Scarecrow Repair
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2006
                    • 2425

                    Originally posted by Nose Nuggets
                    sadly we dont uphold the constitution the way we used too.
                    One only has to look into Dred Scott to see the falsity of that. The Supreme Court decisions regarding pre-war slavery and post-war racism had little to do with constitutionality and everything to do with politics. Those were activist judges for you! The 14th amendment was written specifically to override the ridiculous Dred Scott decision, and the Supreme Court went on to wiggle around that in equally ludicrous ways.
                    Mention the Deacons for Defense and Justice and make both left and right wingnuts squirm

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                    • inbox485
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 3677

                      Originally posted by woodsman
                      Look at the polling section on the LCAV webiste. http://www.lcav.org/resources/Polling.asp

                      "A 2008 CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll found that 79% of Americans favor requiring guns to be registered"

                      I have never participated in these polls and have little faith in their data.
                      I don't doubt that number at all. You have to weigh in places like new york and san fransisco. Add that to the fact that until you deal with the registration process, and see the negative effects of it, it makes sense to most people. Best way to convert somebody is explain how to buy a gun in CA and what happens if your name coincides with some dirt bag that just got paroled.
                      Up for rent...

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                      • POLICESTATE
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 18185

                        Originally posted by inbox485
                        I don't doubt that number at all. You have to weigh in places like new york and san fransisco. Add that to the fact that until you deal with the registration process, and see the negative effects of it, it makes sense to most people. Best way to convert somebody is explain how to buy a gun in CA and what happens if your name coincides with some dirt bag that just got paroled.
                        Also that gun registration in other places usually leads to confiscation.
                        -POLICESTATE,
                        In the name of the State, and of the School, and of the Infallible Science


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                        • Blackhawk556
                          Veteran Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 4182

                          Originally posted by gucci pilot
                          Tell me that was more to this than the audio. I don't think this is a home run.
                          yeah i wouldn't call it a grand slam
                          sigpic PM 4 Front Sight diamond
                          "If guns kill people, do pencils misspell words?"

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                          • tube_ee
                            Member
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 158

                            Originally posted by du9207
                            yeah i wouldn't call it a grand slam
                            I think we're gonna win...

                            what more can you expect?

                            --Shannon

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                            • woodsman
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 569

                              You may be correct on the poll. My concern is that a nationwide poll that hits Berkely, Frisco and Manhattan is not representative of the nationwide population. When I see these polls the questions that pop up in my mind was how many were polled and who was given access to participate etc..
                              "The Right Of The People To
                              Keep And Bear Arms Shall Not Be Infringed"

                              Nuff Said....!

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                              • hoffmang
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 18448

                                The 9th is holding Nordyke to await a decision in the Supreme Court.



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