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  • hvengel
    Member
    • May 2003
    • 440

    Originally posted by donstarr
    Who's the justice with [what sounds to me like] a German accent? He seemed to grill both sides quite nicely.
    That was KOZINSKI the head judge. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Kozinski . He is Romanian and is very liberty oriented in his views having suffered under a communist government as a child.

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    • Cali-V
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2006
      • 1942

      Why dose everyone like to clown Jerry Brown?

      I get the feeling this panel is not looking froward to making this decision...
      oh this...
      It's a Single Cylinder - Single Stroke,
      Internal Combustion Engine,
      with a Free Floating Piston...

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      • tube_ee
        Member
        • Sep 2006
        • 158

        Originally posted by Cali-V
        Why dose everyone like to clown Jerry Brown?

        I get the feeling this panel is not looking froward to making this decision...
        Ask Jello Biafra...

        Of course, a lot of what he was dissed for back in the 70s seem like good ideas now.

        Boinking Linda Ronstadt? Back then? I'd hit it.

        Breaking NASA's monopoly on manned spaceflight? That would have been the greatest thing anybody could have done. We'd be on Mars right now.

        Viewed through the lens of the non-entities who've had the job since then (Pete "electricity deregulation and Chinese food up a tree" Wilson? Grey "most descriptive politician name ever" Davis? Arnold "If my last name was Jones I'd never have gotten this job" Schwarzenegger?) he doesn't look that bad.

        He seems to have done about as well as Mayor of Oakland as anybody could hope for in that ungovernable cesspool, and he's been the best AG (for us) in a generation...

        We could do a lot worse.

        --Shannon

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        • smallshot13
          Member
          • Aug 2008
          • 383

          Me thinks there is a good deal of irrational exuberance in the CalGuns camp. Asking a question can be done for two reasons, one is that you want an answer that you had not thought of, the other is so that others hear an answer that you are hoping will ensue. Some of the questions posed by the court were likely of the first reason. With limited time allotted, unfortunately sometimes the latter reason goes unfulfilled.

          If I were to hazard a prediction, I would say that the 9th would delay any decision until after SCOTUS at least hears the other two cases, and then comes down with a near parallel affirmation of the original 3 judge panel. Incorporation with local government overriding (contravening?) restrictions
          Fiercely Independent Objectivist
          'Stupid' is a modern day ubiquity.

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          • smallshot13
            Member
            • Aug 2008
            • 383

            To finish my last post: while upholding the County's right to declare any publicly owned property 'sensitive', even though Gene so rightly pointed out that idea did not really exist until Heller.
            Fiercely Independent Objectivist
            'Stupid' is a modern day ubiquity.

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            • Harley Quinn
              Member
              • Aug 2006
              • 480

              Originally posted by odysseus
              In listening, the "hidden agenda" dialogue is somewhat revealing in that for that judge, it seemed that Kilmer's case is very strong and thus comes up those old unfounded fears regarding open firearms access to the people.
              The hidden agenda is all about $$$$$$$

              Regards
              114
              Semper Fi
              "Our Country won't go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won't
              be any AMERICA because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our
              women and breed a hardier race!"
              -Lt. Gen. Lewis B. "Chesty" Puller, USMC

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              • POLICESTATE
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Apr 2009
                • 18185

                Originally posted by Cali-V
                Why dose everyone like to clown Jerry Brown?

                I get the feeling this panel is not looking froward to making this decision...
                BEcause he's a donkey's behind. Don't forget what California was like when he was Governor. Was pretty bizarre. It's just odd that he seems to want to support 2A in CA, either he has an ulterior motive or he's completely lost his marbles.
                -POLICESTATE,
                In the name of the State, and of the School, and of the Infallible Science


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                Government Official Lies
                . F r e e d o m . D i e s .

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                • donstarr
                  Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 169

                  Originally posted by hvengel
                  That was KOZINSKI the head judge. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Kozinski . He is Romanian and is very liberty oriented in his views having suffered under a communist government as a child.
                  Ah. Thanks.

                  I've never heard Chief Justice Kozinski speak before. When I first heard him questioning (Donald! ) Kilmer, I thought "oh, no, who's this guy". But then he seemed to give at least as much "attention" to the County's counsel.

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                  • RomanDad
                    Veteran Member
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 3478

                    Does anybody know the name of the judge who sounds like hes about 300 years old???? He asked the Counties attorney "What YOUR group feel about this?" About a half dozen times before he finally conceded she represented the county?
                    Life is too short to drive a Ferrari...

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                    • freonr22
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 12945

                      He was indicating she belonged to a group!!!! I love that. he called Bull poop
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                      Originally posted by dantodd
                      We will win. We are right. We will never stop fighting.
                      Originally posted by bwiese
                      They don't believe it's possible, but then Alison didn't believe there'd be 350K - 400K OLLs in CA either.
                      Originally posted by louisianagirl
                      Our fate is ours alone to decide as long as we remain armed heavily enough to dictate it.

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                      • POLICESTATE
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 18185

                        Originally posted by freonr22
                        He was indicating she belonged to a group!!!! I love that. he called Bull poop
                        Would have been hilarious if he had some sort of childhood flashback and asked her if she was representing the communist party
                        -POLICESTATE,
                        In the name of the State, and of the School, and of the Infallible Science


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                        Government Official Lies
                        . F r e e d o m . D i e s .

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                        • fd15k
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 1049

                          He indeed sounded like he had no clue as which side is speaking in front of him...

                          Originally posted by RomanDad
                          Does anybody know the name of the judge who sounds like hes about 300 years old???? He asked the Counties attorney "What YOUR group feel about this?" About a half dozen times before he finally conceded she represented the county?

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                          • freonr22
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 12945

                            Originally posted by fd15k
                            He indeed sounded like he had no clue as which side is speaking in front of him...
                            Maybe He knew EXACTLY which side was speaking
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                            Originally posted by dantodd
                            We will win. We are right. We will never stop fighting.
                            Originally posted by bwiese
                            They don't believe it's possible, but then Alison didn't believe there'd be 350K - 400K OLLs in CA either.
                            Originally posted by louisianagirl
                            Our fate is ours alone to decide as long as we remain armed heavily enough to dictate it.

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                            • POLICESTATE
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 18185

                              I think he's trying to get behind whatever rhetoric either side might have prepared ahead of time.
                              -POLICESTATE,
                              In the name of the State, and of the School, and of the Infallible Science


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                              Government Official Lies
                              . F r e e d o m . D i e s .

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                              • fd15k
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 1049

                                If he knew, that at least wasn't in his voice Experienced conspirators, those judges

                                Originally posted by freonr22
                                Maybe He knew EXACTLY which side was speaking

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