LA Times calls for more gun control laws

[Fastattack]

Give them credit - the left NEVER gives up, even if it takes 100 years.
However, the timing couldn't be worse with the calls to 'defund' the police. No guns, no police, what'cha gonna do when they come for you?

[Casoobaru]

LA should come up with some new control, except this time for criminals since it's one of the more likely places to have a gun pulled on you, see someone pull a gun on someone else, know someone that has had a gun pulled on them, know someone that has been robbed.

LA is a complete joke. Citizens in the county ought to be given constitutional carry, maybe it would clean the **** hole up.

[CaliGunOwner_Mike]

I'll find out as much as I can tomorrow when I talk to the guy personally.

[warbird]

I expect to see a truce between many criminal elements and the public when it comes to going again the politicians and crooked law enforcement. the gangs and the public need to get along in the streets and if the street gangs know the public will shoot them a truce will be made. The gangs and the public do not need crooked cops and the politicians to survive. Do you want to cut the head off the snake then abolish the home property taxes in this state except for commercial property. if home owners no longer have to pay property tax yearly that will throw everything into a tailspin. a proposition for that would create havoc even if it did not win. The liberals would have no money base. Gun control in LA is lost anyway.

[CaliGunOwner_Mike]

I expect to see a truce between many criminal elements and the public when it comes to going again the politicians and crooked law enforcement. the gangs and the public need to get along in the streets and if the street gangs know the public will shoot them a truce will be made. The gangs and the public do not need crooked cops and the politicians to survive. Do you want to cut the head off the snake then abolish the home property taxes in this state except for commercial property. if home owners no longer have to pay property tax yearly that will throw everything into a tailspin. a proposition for that would create havoc even if it did not win. The liberals would have no money base. Gun control in LA is lost anyway.

[ghostwong]

Exactly, LA times is basically a bolt action military rifle... obsolete

Sorry, bad analogy. A bolt action rifle can still be use to take game. The LA Time is still used for bird cages, wrapping fish, bedding material for worms and animals.

The crap they print is obsolete. Paper itself is NOT!

Thank you for you understanding.

[warbird]

The goal is to take tax money away from criminals in government called Politicians. Then those relieved of the tax burden can decide for themselves what they value and will tax themselves for. It is called self control. People will have to convince the public to tax itself once again if the public feels it is worth it. If not then so be it. what we have is a dictator driven tax system with no serious real public say in the matter. if the public says screw the city, te police, schools, firefighters,etc maybe it is because these sections stepped on the necks of the public for too long.

[n8vrmind]

Sorry, bad analogy. A bolt action rifle can still be use to take game. The LA Time is still used for bird cages, wrapping fish, bedding material for worms and animals.

The crap they print is obsolete. Paper itself is NOT!

Thank you for you understanding.

I specifically stated bolt action "military" rifle. Not talking about hunting.

https://youtu.be/sM2zPe_D4io

[Creampuff]

Why is anybody even reading the L.A. Times?

No one, that's probably why they toss in these OP Ed pieces to stir the pot a little to get the clicks. Don't give them the clicks or any source of revenue.

[GeeBee49]

I talked to my daughter's fiance today about CCWs in LA County. We weren't able to have much of a conversation because the whole family was there celebrating Father's Day. Sheriff Villanueva wants to start accepting applications and is talking with others in the department about how to proceed. One issue is how to deal with the large number of applicants that they are anticipating. The sheriff said in a public address that anyone interested in applying should go the the LASD website and download the form, fill it out and mail it in or scan it into your computer and attach it to an email.

(The department's website has a list of requirements for applicants and as far as I know these requirements will not change. I'm going to remain positive about this because to my knowledge it's been years since any other sheriff has considered doing this.)

[Paladin]

Sheriff Villanueva wants to start accepting applications and is talking with others in the department about how to proceed. One issue is how to deal with the large number of applicants that they are anticipating. The sheriff said in a public address that anyone interested in applying should go the the LASD website and download the form, fill it out and mail it in or scan it into your computer and attach it to an email.

The Sheriff should have his CCW unit contact the CCW units of OC and San Diego: both have had experience in issuing lots of CCWs. OC even helped SD ramp up their process when Sheriff Gore liberalize issuance a 2 or 3 years ago.

(The department's website has a list of requirements for applicants and as far as I know these requirements will not change. I'm going to remain positive about this because to my knowledge it's been years since any other sheriff has considered doing this.)

This is the link to the LASD CCW webpage (https://lasd.org/ccw_info.html) w/links to, among other things, their "CCW Licensing Policy" (dated 2019 April) and their "LASD CCW Policy." The latter, when you open it up, right in the middle of its first page has their extremely restrictive GC policy.

From the LASD CCW Policy (bolding added):

In addition, good cause for the purposes of Penal Code section 26150 shall exist only if the following prevails:

•convincing evidence of a clear and present danger to life or of great bodily harm to the applicant, his spouse or dependent child, which cannot be adequately dealt with by existing law enforcement resources and which danger cannot be reasonably avoided by alternative measures, and which danger would be significantly mitigated by the applicant's carrying of a concealed firearm.

Thanks for the intel!

ETA: as I wrote in the LA Co CCW application thread, since he was discussing Antelope Valley LE, he spoke of long LE response times being Good Cause. Will he liberalize issuance for those within the Basin too, or is long LE response time the only liberal GC he'll accept?

What we need is for CGNers who live in the LA Basin to call in/online when his virtual town hall is focused on an area within the Basin and ask him what is acceptable GC for people living in the basin.

[CaliGunOwner_Mike]

[Paladin]

Another thing to find out is if he still requires people in cities with their own PDs to apply and get denied there first before applying with LASD. That's right beneath the GC definition.

[CaliGunOwner_Mike]

[Paladin]

just give me a super difficult exam and safety test. Eliminate the CG reason and just let me prove I can be trusted to carry in public.

I've recently recommended to someone working with an anti sheriff who is thinking about issuing more, that they should try what the Monterey Co sheriff did when he took over: accept SD = GC but push GMC up by requiring a mandatory Psych Eval on everyone. After 2 or 3 years of doing that and not having any problems, he changed the policy to Psych Eval "may be" required. For example, if the interviewing LE gets a weird vibe even though everything else is okay.