(GENERAL How Does Registration Work thread)

[Gryff]

IMO people like the OP shouldn't own firearms. If you're not willing to stand up for your rights, stand down and sell your collection.

Please detail the time in prison or the criminal case number where you stood up for your rights and allowed yourself to be prosecuted for having firearms that California had deemed illegal. Or by "stand up for your rights," do you mean "don't abide by the laws, hide your items, and pray you don't get caught since it would mean losing your house to pay for legal fees?"

Standing up for your rights means holding the illegal item up for the public to see and saying come and take it. Hiding while acting righteous is not.

There is a simple fact that if we want to shoot our guns, but don't have the money to fight a criminal case, then we have to register. Perhaps that isn't particularly courageous, but neither is hiding.

[Discogodfather]

So true, so true. Cause we all know the gun grabbing socialist politicians and gun-hating groups of this state are going to use registration as a talking point on how well gun control works. The more people that register just bolsters their point.

The more people that register means more assault weapons in California, and that means that people need and want to use standard rifles. The more people that convert and otherwise comply legally, the fewer standard rifles we have.

Easy to make an argument that Californians don't want or need standard rifles if there are so few in CA. In fact, I would say that's one of the aspects of the anti-gun plan, and it's obvious because of the length they went to make registration so difficult.

You're not making any kind of statement if you convert to a non-AW legal status. You are making a point if you just don't comply, which I can respect in principle, but it goes nowhere if you then simply keep the guns in the safe forever. Those of us that actively use our weapons publicly for a variety of activities including range and hunting time, means you can't risk non-compliance. If you're in some remote county where the Sheriff doesn't care then more power to you, but think about what us city slickers have to deal with daily.

[meno377]

So true, so true. Cause we all know the gun grabbing socialist politicians and gun-hating groups of this state are going to use registration as a talking point on how well gun control works. The more people that register just bolsters their point.

Agree.

[epilepticninja]

The more people that register means more assault weapons in California, and that means that people need and want to use standard rifles. The more people that convert and otherwise comply legally, the fewer standard rifles we have.

Easy to make an argument that Californians don't want or need standard rifles if there are so few in CA. In fact, I would say that's one of the aspects of the anti-gun plan, and it's obvious because of the length they went to make registration so difficult.

You're not making any kind of statement if you convert to a non-AW legal status. You are making a point if you just don't comply, which I can respect in principle, but it goes nowhere if you then simply keep the guns in the safe forever. Those of us that actively use our weapons publicly for a variety of activities including range and hunting time, means you can't risk non-compliance. If you're in some remote county where the Sheriff doesn't care then more power to you, but think about what us city slickers have to deal with daily.

I hear ya. Just stating my opinion. Luckily, all my black rifles are going to AZ before the ban starts next year. Then Im getting an M1A for use in CA. If the high capacity thing is still on hold then, im sure my long lost 20 rounders will magically appear.


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[BucDan]

So true, so true. Cause we all know the gun grabbing socialist politicians and gun-hating groups of this state are going to use registration as a talking point on how well gun control works. The more people that register just bolsters their point.

I believe it's more of a "Catch 22" situation. If people register, they will say that gun control and registration works because "common sense" gun owners agree with it by registering. If people DON'T register, they will say that gun owners are lawbreakers and don't follow the law, that's why they should enforce registration and confiscation. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[caliguy93]

I just don't understand why people are even the slightest bit optimistic on this state.

Name one prongun victory that's actually a victory that cali has ever had.
There none, absolutely zero. It only gets worse, and stricter

Sure we may win a court case every now and then but it's always only been making a crappy new law not as crappy.

Never anything that actually helps our gun rights. There is absolutely no reason to hope anything progun will ever go our way in this state.

TAke what you can from our supreme leaders and run

[Crazed_SS]

EDIT:

Got some activity on my 7 submissions.

The 5 ARs I submitted were kicked back because I chose "self built" as YES, when I should have picked NO.
The ARs were built from lowers purchased from dealers. So for reference, rifles built from stripped lowers ARE NOT "self-built" ..
Someone mentioned this awhile back, but I didnt have a chance to change it because I had already submitted.

I got 5 separate emails about 5-10 mins apart telling me to resubmit the application for each rifle. The email instructs you to log back in and it allows you to edit your original application.
At first I didnt see a "submit" button after editing my application.. I think that's because the guy was still "in" the application. At the top of all my submissions it said, "This record is currently being viewed"

Looks like he's done viewing and I was able to go back in and choose "NO" to the self-built question and hit submit again on all 5 submissions.


There didnt seem to be any movement on my AK submissions which consist of a WASR-10 and a Converted Saiga .223

[Brown Rock]

EDIT:

Got some activity on my 7 submissions.

The 5 ARs I submitted were kicked back because I chose "self built" as YES, when I should have picked NO.
The ARs were built from lowers purchased from dealers. So for reference, rifles built from stripped lowers ARE NOT "self-built" ..
Someone mentioned this awhile back, but I didnt have a chance to change it because I had already submitted.

I got 5 separate emails about 5-10 mins apart telling me to resubmit the application for each rifle. The email instructs you to log back in and it allows you to edit your original application.
At first I didnt see a "submit" button after editing my application.. I think that's because the guy was still "in" the application. At the top of all my submissions it said, "This record is currently being viewed"

Looks like he's done viewing and I was able to go back in and choose "NO" to the self-built question and hit submit again on all 5 submissions.


There didnt seem to be any movement on my AK submissions which consist of a WASR-10 and a Converted Saiga .223

Interesting. Thanks for the update.

[caliguy93]

Did I have to pay an additional fee?

[Crazed_SS]

No extra fee..

Just changed the option in the dropdown box and hit re-submit.
Not sure what happens now.. do mine go to the "bottom of the pile" now or what?

Ill keep you guys posted.

[CandG]

No extra fee..

Just changed the option in the dropdown box and hit re-submit.
Not sure what happens now.. do mine go to the "bottom of the pile" now or what?

Ill keep you guys posted.

Does it only give you the option to edit your application when they requested that you fix the errors, or can you do it anytime (before approval) on any of your applications? For example, would you be able to edit anything on your AK application that they didn't ask you to fix anything on?

[Crazed_SS]

Does it only give you the option to edit your application when they requested that you fix the errors, or can you do it anytime (before approval) on any of your applications? For example, would you be able to edit anything on your AK application that they didn't ask you to fix anything on?

It appears you can only edit a submission after the Admin kicks it back. Right now, if I go back in, I cant change anything on my AK submissions or the AR submissions I just resubmitted.

[MudCamper]

For each of my AR type rifles that I submitted and application for, I received an email:

Subject: California Firearms Application Reporting System (CFARS) Submission Confirmation Notice

(my details and the firearm details)

The California Department of Justice has received your electronic AB 1135/SB 880 Assault Weapon Registration and will begin processing your submission. You will be notified of the results via U.S. Mail. If you have any questions, please use the Report an Issue feature in the CFARS application https://cfars.doj.ca.gov. For questions regarding your account, please email the Bureau of Firearms at: bofcris@doj.ca.gov

For my home build pistol I received nothing yet. But I also noticed that I had an error on that application, and had previously reported and issue to them. So who knows what could be going on there... Could be that it's a pistol. Could be that it's a home build. Or it could be that I reported an error in the app.

[rero360]

I've yet to receive any emails, none from my submissions, the error report I did or the request for a serial number for my 80% pistol

[CandG]

...So who knows what could be going on there... Could be that it's a pistol. Could be that it's a home build. Or it could be that I reported an error in the app.

Oh great, now you've done it... DOJ server can't handle all that