In the battle for winning hearts and minds, how do we counter stuff like this?

[BluNorthern]

Oh my......

Lol..

Well played!

[colossians323]

FWIW, read this earlier today...

Why US liberals are now buying guns too

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-38297345

-- Michael

From the story, more anecdotal fake 'hate crimes'

As a transgender woman, she does not fear for her personal safety in the Californian city where she now lives but she says she knows people in rural areas "who woke up and found a bunch of swastikas and words like '***got' and 'trannie' scrawled all over their building".

I guess the good part is they are seeing the power of being able to defend yourself, and have fun

[colossians323]

Because George Takei is gay and you disagree with him we should attack gays?

Why not go whole hog and simply go after Japanese-Americans as a group? Hell, there are still a few buildings standing at Manzanar.

That should help us in the hearts and minds department, don't you agree?

Retarded post is retarded post. I believe he was being sarcastic, but your analogy is very poor. Japanese have no control over their ethnicity, while homosexuals have complete control over who they choose to engage in sexual relations with (as do heterosexuals). Maybe you should go back to school and learn a little bit about human sexuality and ethnicity to see how they don't compare

[VictorFranko]

Because George Takei is gay and you disagree with him we should attack gays?

Why not go whole hog and simply go after Japanese-Americans as a group? Hell, there are still a few buildings standing at Manzanar.

That should help us in the hearts and minds department, don't you agree?

Yeah, I was wrong to say that, and I have gay and lesbian friends too.
I'm just so sick of George Takei. It seems if he's not in our face with his marriage and gay rights it's about guns.
My bad.

[BluNorthern]

Yeah, I was wrong to say that, and I have gay and lesbian friends too.
I'm just so sick of George Takei. It seems if he's not in our face with his marriage and gay rights it's about guns.
My bad.

It's understandable. When I'm pushed I push back.

And we've been pushed a whole lot.

The left is never content to have an opinion, they have to make it policy for everyone whether they subscribe to it or not. The left thinks something is good, therefore it has to be the new normal.

[Zorba]

"True Believers".

There is *NOTHING* worse than a True Believer of any type - they will do anything, say anything, without any regard whatsoever as to the consequences. Goddess protect us from their type!

[baggss]

We know about Gavin Newsom's Safety for All campaign in social media and how it worked for the anti's...now this from George Takei. 75,000 members in 2 days.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1779750855570640/

Best answer/counter argument I can see is the Pink Pistols. The LGBTQ community is not homogenous of thought, although some would like them to be.

[R-Cubed]

Think they will take action against Obama for releasing criminals with "gun violence" offenses?

[myk]

The opposing sides are entrenched; there is no convincing anyone of anything anymore. It makes no difference how salient our arguments may be. The Gun Prohibitionists' minds are made up and they will not listen. The Court is our sole haven now, and we need to get cases in front of the Trump Justice(s) to preserve these basic rights for ourselves.

This. No anti will ever convince me to turn on the 2A. Conversely, I know I won't be able to dissuade an entrenched anti from their beliefs. It's up to the courts now...

[357manny]

Yeah, I was wrong to say that, and I have gay and lesbian friends too.
I'm just so sick of George Takei. It seems if he's not in our face with his marriage and gay rights it's about guns.
My bad.

I'm sick of George too.

[BluNorthern]

Best answer/counter argument I can see is the Pink Pistols. The LGBTQ community is not homogenous of thought, although some would like them to be.

The left will throw them under the bus too, like Gavin did with Nicki.

[Loubot10]

We know about Gavin Newsom's Safety for All campaign in social media and how it worked for the anti's...now this from George Takei. 75,000 members in 2 days.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1779750855570640/

Description
Founded by acclaimed actor and LGBTQ rights activist George Takei in response to the mass shooting at The Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida on June 12, 2016, One Pulse For America is an online community dedicated to closing the "Passion Gap" with pro-gun activists by encouraging gun violence prevention advocates to take action on a daily basis.

We use social media to bring strategic pressure on legislators and other decision-makers by amplifying support for gun violence prevention efforts at the national, state and local level. Our goal is to change social norms surrounding guns in the United States and obtain life-saving reforms that will end America's epidemic of gun violence.

GROUP GUIDELINES

This is NOT a forum for debate. We're about ACTION. This is a group for True Believers and Doers; the folks who don't need convincing that we need tougher gun laws; the folks who have been dying to turn up the volume and just needed to find the right muse.

When you join One Pulse for America, you are signing up to take action on a regular basis to curb gun violence in the United States.

One Pulse for America members NEVER wring their hands or say, "We can't do this." We put the work in and get it done.

TROLLS

If you see a pro-gun troll in this group, please report that person to Ladd Everitt or one of the other group admins by tagging us in the comments. We will remove them as quickly as possible!

Win hearts and minds?

Haven't you heard? We're at the "either with us or against us" level. Like a this:

This is NOT a forum for debate. We're about ACTION. This is a group for True Believers and Doers; the folks who don't need convincing that we need tougher TO ERADICATE gun laws DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS, CHILDREN OF ILLEGALS, & ANYONE WHO DOESN'T AGRESSIVELY SUPPORT OUR VIEWS; the folks who have been dying to turn up the volume and just needed to find the right muse.DONALD TRUMP OUR GLORIUS LEADER.

Heck, anyone who doesn't wet themselves over Trump, believe we're in decline, and blame everyone else, is called Liberal, snowflake, Hillary supporter, Libtard, etc.

No, we're not looking for new members, we're looking to identify & seperate ourselves from anyone with differing opinions in our own community.

[JeffSD]

Eventually the Anti's are going to step to the plate.
Then we can see what they are made of. Until then, its talk from an old actor who doesn't know anything.
For me, its getting out of California and back to America first and foremost.
Then hopefully with Trump, and whomever he puts in the SC we have a chance on fighting this stuff.
Cali is lost though, it will never turn back, you will never regain the rights that have been taken from you at this point sadly.

This. The fight for California is over. We lost. My wife and I are moving to Free America as well.

[Noble Cause]

If they want to close the "passion gap," they have to generate some passion in the first place. Euphemisms such as "gun violence prevention" when they mean "gun control" won't create that passion.

How many *paying* supporters do they have again? So much for passion.

That Matter ?

Only TWO.

Bloomberg and Soros.

Without their huge financial backing, Gun Control would collapse upon itself.

This needs to be emphasized whenever possible.


Noble

[11B30]

This. The fight for California is over. We lost. My wife and I are moving to Free America as well.

My job is moving to Nevada in a few months and I will be leaving. Why did we lose so much of our gun rights? Most of the Middle Class have left for greener pastures. We have a large influx of illegals and now our state will provide sanctuary and driver license. What also hurts us that 1/3rd of all free entitlement takers and welfare recipients now live in California. And last is that the fact is that this is a very progressive state. Prop 63 have shown us that the voters want gun and ammo control. This will take decades to fix what is stupid in occupied Kaliforniastan. For did not the politicians said they will ignore the Constitution and some said they will put a ballot next year to secede from the Union?

WELCOME TO OCCUPIED KALIFORNIASTAN COMRADE.