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  • #16
    dpr
    Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 372

    Releasing large numbers of them in San Francisco and LA would be a great idea.

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    • #17
      Blade Gunner
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 4422

      Originally posted by zhyla
      It will be a long time before reintroduced Grizzlies meet/eat their first human.
      Gavin Newsom has a home near Tahoe. Perhaps the Grizzlies will develop a taste for
      humans sooner.
      If you find yourself in a fair fight, you're doing it all wrong.

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      • #18
        Blade Gunner
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 4422

        Originally posted by Mitch
        What kind of handgun are you thinking of carrying to defend yourself from an 800lb grizzly?
        S&W 500
        If you find yourself in a fair fight, you're doing it all wrong.

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        • #19
          Jimi Jah
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2014
          • 17596

          California brown bears were a unique sub-species. Larger than the rocky mountain based brown bears, they were up to 1000 lbs.

          They prefered the lowland areas, not the mountains. Local indian tribes were fearful of them as they were pack animals. Up to 20 bears would roam the countryside in packs, no Indians could fight that.

          It would be impossibe to re-introduce an extinct sub-species here. Rocky mountain brown bears are not natural to our state nor climate. The people that think this stuff up need to go back to the Sierra Club for more research.

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          • #20
            ElDub1950
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2012
            • 5688

            Originally posted by jeffyhog
            Before the California libs agree that you should be able to carry a gun to protect yourself, they'll restrict access to lands where the grizzlies inhabit. See, it all works out as they planned.
            ^^ This is exactly how it will work. They want all humans out except for their elitists little groups of course.

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            • #21
              Wiz-of-Awd
              Veteran Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 3556

              Originally posted by Jimi Jah
              California brown bears were a unique sub-species...

              Up to 20 bears would roam the countryside in packs...
              That's awesome, and would certainly be something to be fearful of.

              A.W.D.
              Seven. The answer is always seven.

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              • #22
                teotwaki
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 528

                Originally posted by sfpcservice
                I know this is outside the box, but I really believe having Grizzlies back in our Forests would change the political landscape of CA.
                Getting our referendum on the November ballot will help to change the political landscape!

                Jim
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                • #23
                  aukword1
                  Junior Member
                  • Dec 2015
                  • 29

                  signed. Would like to see wolves and grizzlies back in CA for hunting purposes

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                  • #24
                    malfunction
                    Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 410

                    Originally posted by dpr
                    Releasing large numbers of them in San Francisco and LA would be a great idea.
                    ^^^ this. I notice that none of the people signing this stupid petition actually live in the Sierra Nevada. I do, and well you can keep your grizzlies, thanks very much.
                    Originally posted by kcbrown
                    What we have in practice is a legal system, not a justice system.
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                    • #25
                      CalNRA
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 8686

                      Originally posted by Jimi Jah

                      They prefered the lowland areas, not the mountains. Local indian tribes were fearful of them as they were pack animals. Up to 20 bears would roam the countryside in packs, no Indians could fight that.
                      when you say "lowland", are we talking about Oakland type low land, or Stockton type low land?

                      I suddenly feel like I am in a very conservationist mood today.
                      Originally posted by cvigue
                      This is not rocket surgery.

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                      • #26
                        eigenstate
                        Member
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 202

                        I grew up in Western Canada, and there were/still are a lot of grizzlies. In mountain areas they generally like the higher elevations. Outside of parks areas, up in Northern Alberta one could legally carry a rifle/shotgun for protection but very few people do. People usually carry bear spray and a bear banger. Perhaps do to the lower population density there are only a few cases of grizzly attacks per year. That said, a relative of mine has a house in Canmore, and a girl got killed by a grizzly just down his street a few years back. Areas just east of Banff have a lot of grizzlies and also a fair number of people so bad things occasionally happen.

                        I once came upon a grizzly on a mountain bike, but saw the bear from far enough distance to back out the way I came. Another time I ran into a mother grizzly and a cub up above the tree line on a hike to a summit climb, but again at a distance that I could retreat safely. I've seen grizzlies several other times when I didn't feel in danger. I did have a black bear maul my tent door at night when I was in it. That scared the crap out of me. Needless to say, I'm not one to purposely seek out a bear encounter, so it still shocks me to speak with other hikers in california who are so excited (in a happy way) to have the chance to purposely get up next to a bear.

                        From my knowledge, unlike black bears, grizzlies don't tolerate areas with much human population, and wouldn't do well anywhere in the southern half of the California. I've love to see them back in the California wilds, but it ain't likely to ever happen. But even if they did, I never felt the need to be armed to protect myself from four legged critters. It's the two legged kind that are the problem.

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                        • #27
                          Californio
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 4169

                          I am all for the Grizzly and Wolf to be introduced, that would mean that the Elk would have to be introduced to feed them and the dams would have to come down so that Salmon could then be reintroduced for the Griz to eat, all these rotting kills would solve the Condor issue as well. California population would decrease, what's not to like.

                          All of this would make California like Alaska and chase the candy arsed city sissies back to where they came from or get eaten
                          "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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                          • #28
                            M14 Junkie
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 733

                            What an idiotic idea. Ca. is way too populated with humans to ever introduce grizzlies into the state.

                            Ca. is not Canada, Alaska, or Montana. Grizzlies need to be where humans are not.

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                            • #29
                              sfpcservice
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 1879

                              Originally posted by M14 Junkie
                              What an idiotic idea. Ca. is way too populated with humans to ever introduce grizzlies into the state.

                              Ca. is not Canada, Alaska, or Montana. Grizzlies need to be where humans are not.
                              All of the places you listed above have humans that encounter Grizzlies. Anyway, brush up on your tact.
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                              John 14:6

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                              • #30
                                M14 Junkie
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 733

                                Originally posted by sfpcservice
                                All of the places you listed above have humans that encounter Grizzlies. Anyway, brush up on your tact.
                                Right after you bubba. It's an idiotic idea.

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