AB 1663- Chiu, 2016 - Dead in Committee

[Urban Achiever]

I know, I know, keep fighting on. At this point for me, that is all I can do, but goddamn it gets old after awhile.

[vaka]

So do they want to redefine what a mag lock button release is to be one and the same as a mag release button?

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[bootstrap]

What commies call "loopholes", I call Freedoms.

[1bulletBarney]

Here we go... again

[sl0re10]

We better win the presidential election. If the Supreme Court won't hear cases upholding their previous decisions about 'in common use'... then this stuff will pass and stand.

Ironically; this stuff is to distract voters from other issues in the election... but gun rights are still important so pursing it could still cause them to lose (nationally).

[Librarian]

Is the language available yet? I don't see it on the usual state site.

Not as of a minute ago.

[Lurkin']

AB1664 and AB1663...? Double whammy?

[IVC]

Isn't this ALREADY the law?!

By my understanding, a rifle with a "bullet button" has an affixed magazine that requires a tool to remove it. How will the language be changed to require the magazine to be more affixed?

The current law prohibits "rifle with detachable magazine," which is what bullet button prevents - detachable magazine.

The new language would ban rifles that "can accept a detachable magazine." Very similar, but it goes after the ability to accept a detachable magazine, not the ability to detach a magazine. A rifle with bullet button *can accept* a detachable magazine because that's what happens when one replaces the magazine.

[hkguy80]

Well they succeeded in eliminating SSE. Wouldn't be surprised if this succeeds too. Time to move.

[IVC]

So do they want to redefine what a mag lock button release is to be one and the same as a mag release button?

No, they want to go after rifles based on what is inserted into them, not what can be taken out.

[CalAlumnus]

Here's the key change in AB 1663:

(d) For purposes of this section, the following definitions shall apply:
(1) "Detachable magazine" means an ammunition feeding device that can be removed readily from the firearm without disassembly of the firearm action.
(2) "Fixed magazine" means an ammunition feeding device contained in, or permanently attached to, a firearm in such a manner that the device cannot be removed without disassembly of the firearm action.

Also has provisions for people who lawfully acquired "assault weapons" prior to 12/31/2016 to register them, by 7/1/2018.

If I'm reading this properly... This re-opens assault weapon registration, with bullet button rifles eligible. If you own a registered, legal assault weapon, it's legal to have a traditional magazine release on it, right?

[JCMILLER]

These people are just relentless in their quest to destroy our 2nd amendment rights. It's time to move to a free state.

[IVC]

Let's see whether they envision registration or confiscation of the current EBRs.

Lmao.

Do you really have to wait?

They can outright ban possession, or they can reopen registry. They can ban already registered RAWs, or they can let them be. They can go after "pistol grip + magazine" and allow featureless, or they can go after ALL semi-automatic rifles and ban featureless with detachable magazine. They can also go after all featureless regardless of magazine type.

Each option requires different level of tinkering with the current law and can have different unintended consequences.

It's easy to say "They'll ban all centerfire semi-automatic rifles, full stop." Whether they will try is another issue. If their calculation is that SCOTUS won't do a thing and that they control district and circuit courts, they might as well do it this time. Are they going to? Nobody knows.

[Lone_Gunman]

These stupid effers are trying to ban virtually every semi auto rifle, including the Mini-14, the M1 Carbine, the M1 Garand, and hundreds of different hunting rifles. This is what happens when people who know nothing about guns try to write gun laws. Serious over reach.

[randomBytes]

Time to start hanging the bastards