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Baird v. Becerra (USDC Eastern District of CA) Open Carry

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  • abinsinia
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2015
    • 4083



    There's no streams scheduled for Courtroom 2 at 1:30pm , but maybe they will update it at some point.

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    • abinsinia
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      • Feb 2015
      • 4083



      I think it's this one, but it's not on yet. It's another gun related case called Junior Sports Magazine v. Bonta

      Started at 30minutes.
      Last edited by abinsinia; 06-24-2025, 2:01 PM.

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      • Elgatodeacero
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2015
        • 1279

        Thank you to abinsinia for the above link to the Baird oral argument. The Baird case starts at 29:51, but the earlier Junior Sports case is also interesting and worth watching.

        the judges were very tough (but fair) on both attorneys. I think Baird has the better argument that California has an open carry ban, since no such thing as open carry license valid statewide.

        the fact that the State had produced no evidence that anyone has ever received an open carry permit in the history of the State is pretty pathetic, especially since they pretended like Baird had not shown that to be the case - when the State literally could not produce one single open carry application or permit from any time period.

        the State’s arguments were not well crafted. I predict a win for Baird, possibly 3-0.
        Last edited by Elgatodeacero; 06-24-2025, 5:58 PM.

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        • abinsinia
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2015
          • 4083

          Baird's attorney did much better in this appeal than the prior appeal.

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          • Paladin
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Dec 2005
            • 12382

            I’m guessing a decision in 3 to 12 months.
            240+ examples of CCWs Saving Lives.

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            • DolphinFan
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 2557

              OPEN CARRY CONSTITUTIONALLY LEGAL.

              YESTERDAY THE 9TH CIRCUT OF APPEALS STRUCK DOWN THE CA OPEN CARRY BAN.

              ROB BONTA'S STATEMENT;

              "California's 9th circuit court of appeals just ruled that California's Open Carry Ban is NO LONGER Constitutionally Valid Statewide. Our Office Respects the courts decision. This is an important recognigion of Second Amendment Rights for Californian's."

              It doesn't sound like the state will appeal to the Supreme Court. Can it go EnBanc and reverse it's decision? I don't know, maybe someone else does.

              The Case is Patterson
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              2/18/2023 - Interview set
              4/27/2023 - Class
              4/30/2023 - Live Scan
              5/9/2023 - Interview
              6/26/2023 - Approval Letter
              8/1/2023 - Issued

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              • abinsinia
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2015
                • 4083

                Originally posted by DolphinFan
                OPEN CARRY CONSTITUTIONALLY LEGAL.

                YESTERDAY THE 9TH CIRCUT OF APPEALS STRUCK DOWN THE CA OPEN CARRY BAN.

                ROB BONTA'S STATEMENT;

                "California's 9th circuit court of appeals just ruled that California's Open Carry Ban is NO LONGER Constitutionally Valid Statewide. Our Office Respects the courts decision. This is an important recognigion of Second Amendment Rights for Californian's."

                It doesn't sound like the state will appeal to the Supreme Court. Can it go EnBanc and reverse it's decision? I don't know, maybe someone else does.

                The Case is Patterson
                link to the story ?

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                • BAJ475
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jul 2014
                  • 5046

                  Originally posted by abinsinia

                  link to the story ?
                  Link to the opinion.

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                  • abinsinia
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2015
                    • 4083

                    Originally posted by BAJ475

                    Link to the opinion.
                    Link to anything.

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                    • Rickybillegas
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2022
                      • 1529

                      When can we start open carrying?

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                      • Sgt Raven
                        Veteran Member
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 3786

                        I can't find any update past the orals in June.
                        There is so much AI generated crap on the internet these days, I take everything with a huge grain of salt.
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